Moto that has seen better days
#26
Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: City of Angels
Posts: 4,870
Bikes: A few too many
Mentioned: 42 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1364 Post(s)
Liked 2,178 Times
in
1,182 Posts
^^^^ Agreed.
#27
Senior Member
I have a Moto of the same approximate age, similar frame design including the "inexternal" marketing. I believe the main triangle is a lower-end cromo and the fork, chain/seat stays are all hi-ten. Still, the bike rides very nicely. It has some persistent issues in the headset/front end area that have defied all diagnosis, but I still use it as my daily commuter.
Routing the rear brake cable through the top tube was a royal pain! I think I ended up using an electricians fish tape to get the job done.
Routing the rear brake cable through the top tube was a royal pain! I think I ended up using an electricians fish tape to get the job done.
#28
Senior Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Dec 2005
Posts: 17,146
Mentioned: 481 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3804 Post(s)
Liked 6,642 Times
in
2,602 Posts
Okay, I succumbed to forum pressure and went with aero levers:
Not sure how I ended up with that saddle but it’s quite light. I’m using an Ideale seat post clamp to throw at least one French part in. I learned that the straight pin steel post is too small, however. Back to the parts bin!
Here are my FD options:
Not sure how I ended up with that saddle but it’s quite light. I’m using an Ideale seat post clamp to throw at least one French part in. I learned that the straight pin steel post is too small, however. Back to the parts bin!
Here are my FD options:
Last edited by nlerner; 06-28-20 at 07:23 PM.
#29
señor miembro
Join Date: Dec 2018
Location: Pac NW
Posts: 6,602
Bikes: '70s - '80s Campagnolo
Mentioned: 92 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3869 Post(s)
Liked 6,461 Times
in
3,194 Posts
Looking good.
A little polish, and that fd at 4:00 in the photo will look sorta '80s Campy. I also like the ARX one.
A little polish, and that fd at 4:00 in the photo will look sorta '80s Campy. I also like the ARX one.
#30
Senior Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Dec 2005
Posts: 17,146
Mentioned: 481 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3804 Post(s)
Liked 6,642 Times
in
2,602 Posts
Okay, I think this thing is done. Had to switch to an even skinnier front tire to clear the fork blades. Still awaits a test ride and then a new home.
#31
Shifting is fun!
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: South Holland, NL
Posts: 11,000
Bikes: Yes, please.
Mentioned: 279 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2193 Post(s)
Liked 4,587 Times
in
1,764 Posts
I like it. It has parts bin special written all over it, but there is a level of cohesion in the choice of colors and parts that brings it all together. Nice!
#32
Ride, Wrench, Swap, Race
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Northern California
Posts: 9,181
Bikes: Cheltenham-Pedersen racer, Boulder F/S Paris-Roubaix, Varsity racer, '52 Christophe, '62 Continental, '92 Merckx, '75 Limongi, '76 Presto, '72 Gitane SC, '71 Schwinn SS, etc.
Mentioned: 132 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1562 Post(s)
Liked 1,287 Times
in
858 Posts
Assuming that the wheels/tires aren't boat anchor material, you might want to weigh this thing.
I have come to appreciate why the lug-less methods of tube joining were implemented, for achieving lighter weight using less expensive tubing.
The hidden cable arrangement would favor use of straight-gauge tubing having a decent wall thickness.
My 1984 PH501 having mere Carbolite fork blades actually weighs the same as my 1979 PX10, so the lug-less construction has to be contributing to that.
Heck the PX10 even has a lighter titanium-rail saddle!
I have come to appreciate why the lug-less methods of tube joining were implemented, for achieving lighter weight using less expensive tubing.
The hidden cable arrangement would favor use of straight-gauge tubing having a decent wall thickness.
My 1984 PH501 having mere Carbolite fork blades actually weighs the same as my 1979 PX10, so the lug-less construction has to be contributing to that.
Heck the PX10 even has a lighter titanium-rail saddle!
#33
Senior Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Dec 2005
Posts: 17,146
Mentioned: 481 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3804 Post(s)
Liked 6,642 Times
in
2,602 Posts
#34
Edumacator
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: Goose Creek, SC
Posts: 6,777
Bikes: '87 Crestdale, '87 Basso Gap, '92 Rossin Performance EL-OS, 1990 VanTuyl, 1980s Losa, 1985 Trek 670, 1982 AD SLE, 1987 PX10, etc...
Mentioned: 59 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2434 Post(s)
Liked 3,108 Times
in
1,957 Posts
I want to see the ad copy for this one!
”Svelte and revolutionarily internally brazed Motobecane with special Swiss threading. Custom equipped, and sporting a modern carbon fork to improve responsiveness.
you won’t find another like this on eBay.
”Svelte and revolutionarily internally brazed Motobecane with special Swiss threading. Custom equipped, and sporting a modern carbon fork to improve responsiveness.
you won’t find another like this on eBay.
__________________
1987 Crest Cannondale, 1987 Basso Gap, 1992 Rossin Performance EL, 1990ish Van Tuyl, 1985 Trek 670, 1982 AD SLE, 2003 Pinarello Surprise, 1990ish MBK Atlantique, 1987 Peugeot Competition, 1987 Nishiki Tri-A, 1981 Faggin, 1996 Cannondale M500, 1984 Mercian, 1982 AD SuperLeicht, 1985 Massi (model unknown), 1988 Daccordi Griffe , 1989 Fauxsin MTB, 1981 Ciocc Mockba, 1992 Bianchi Giro, 1977 Colnago Super
1987 Crest Cannondale, 1987 Basso Gap, 1992 Rossin Performance EL, 1990ish Van Tuyl, 1985 Trek 670, 1982 AD SLE, 2003 Pinarello Surprise, 1990ish MBK Atlantique, 1987 Peugeot Competition, 1987 Nishiki Tri-A, 1981 Faggin, 1996 Cannondale M500, 1984 Mercian, 1982 AD SuperLeicht, 1985 Massi (model unknown), 1988 Daccordi Griffe , 1989 Fauxsin MTB, 1981 Ciocc Mockba, 1992 Bianchi Giro, 1977 Colnago Super
#35
Senior Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Dec 2005
Posts: 17,146
Mentioned: 481 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3804 Post(s)
Liked 6,642 Times
in
2,602 Posts
I ended up using a YST threadless BB unit to defy the threading gods. Popped in no problem and lined up perfectly with the Nervar crankset.
#36
Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: Ontario, Canada
Posts: 4,624
Bikes: iele Latina, Miele Suprema, Miele Uno LS, Miele Miele Beta, MMTB, Bianchi Model Unknown, Fiori Venezia, Fiori Napoli, VeloSport Adamas AX
Mentioned: 16 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1324 Post(s)
Liked 927 Times
in
640 Posts
Just an fwiw, for internal cable routing like on t hat bike.
I take a large safety pin, straighten it out, and then bend a small hook at the pointed end. With that hook I can easily 'fish out' an inner cable. I run my innner cable through the outer cable housing and make sure a fair amount of inner cable protrudes past the housing. then I feed that into the first hole and pass it towards the second rear hole. I use a small penlight to see when the inner cable gets to the rear hole. That's when I use the hook on the straightened safety pin to catch the inner cable and pull it out of the hole. Then the housing follows the inner cable. It's faster than what it took me to type this.
Images available if needed/wanted.
Cheers
I take a large safety pin, straighten it out, and then bend a small hook at the pointed end. With that hook I can easily 'fish out' an inner cable. I run my innner cable through the outer cable housing and make sure a fair amount of inner cable protrudes past the housing. then I feed that into the first hole and pass it towards the second rear hole. I use a small penlight to see when the inner cable gets to the rear hole. That's when I use the hook on the straightened safety pin to catch the inner cable and pull it out of the hole. Then the housing follows the inner cable. It's faster than what it took me to type this.
Images available if needed/wanted.
Cheers
#37
señor miembro
Join Date: Dec 2018
Location: Pac NW
Posts: 6,602
Bikes: '70s - '80s Campagnolo
Mentioned: 92 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3869 Post(s)
Liked 6,461 Times
in
3,194 Posts
I've never used a threadless square taper bb. But, just thinking about it ... if it works as well as the threaded cartridge bb in which we're all familiar (UN55, etc.), why aren't they all threadless?
#38
Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: northern michigan
Posts: 13,317
Bikes: '77 Colnago Super, '76 Fuji The Finest, '88 Cannondale Criterium, '86 Trek 760, '87 Miyata 712
Mentioned: 19 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 659 Post(s)
Liked 595 Times
in
313 Posts
Cool project! Gotta love that parts bin for builds. Moto’s need to be saved! I’m doing something similar with an ‘83 UO-14. Decent frames and sweet classic looks.