Struggling with Hills
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I used to mash in my 30s, now at 57 I spin (my knees just mouthed a "thank-you").
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To echo what others have said: your gearing is fine; just keep going up and eventually you'll get there. There is no shame in stopping and taking a break, or even walking part way up. Many of us have been there and done that.
Part of doing hills is psychological. If it's a longer climb, it can help to break it into small chunks rather than looking all the way to the top. This can also help for keeping track of where you run out of steam, which can help with pacing the next time.
Part of doing hills is psychological. If it's a longer climb, it can help to break it into small chunks rather than looking all the way to the top. This can also help for keeping track of where you run out of steam, which can help with pacing the next time.
When it's really steep, I'm not too proud to get off and walk, which is itself exercise.
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My experience is that some people power up hills well and some spin up well. I pick my spots. Depending on the length and pitch of the climb, I will spin or power. I am not a great climber. Let me amend that....I am mediocre at best. But, spinning up every climb or powering up every climb can be a disaster for me.
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My experience is that some people power up hills well and some spin up well. I pick my spots. Depending on the length and pitch of the climb, I will spin or power. I am not a great climber. Let me amend that....I am mediocre at best. But, spinning up every climb or powering up every climb can be a disaster for me.
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I go to Colorado almost every summer. I see cyclists quit on climbs while they still have easier to spin gears at their disposal.
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Been there, done that. Buttermilk Lane is a challenging climb, especially when you're still building your legs. What I would do is find a landmark 50 yards ahead and huff and puff my way there, and if I had anything left I'd keep going to another landmark; stop catch up with my breathing, lather, rinse, repeat. The day I rode up Buttermilk without stopping was one of the prouder days of my life.
When it's really steep, I'm not too proud to get off and walk, which is itself exercise.
When it's really steep, I'm not too proud to get off and walk, which is itself exercise.
The problem I had with stopping on a hill when I first came back to riding was just how hard it was to start going again without momentum.
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If the road allows it, creating your own switchback pattern back and forth sometimes works. I certainly will do that on a steep gravel path.
The problem I had with stopping on a hill when I first came back to riding was just how hard it was to start going again without momentum.
The problem I had with stopping on a hill when I first came back to riding was just how hard it was to start going again without momentum.
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Been there, done that. Buttermilk Lane is a challenging climb, especially when you're still building your legs. What I would do is find a landmark 50 yards ahead and huff and puff my way there, and if I had anything left I'd keep going to another landmark; stop catch up with my breathing, lather, rinse, repeat. The day I rode up Buttermilk without stopping was one of the prouder days of my life.
When it's really steep, I'm not too proud to get off and walk, which is itself exercise.
When it's really steep, I'm not too proud to get off and walk, which is itself exercise.
Way to stick with it!
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Snowmass and Aspen are beautiful, I will go back one of these days. Hopefully do a little bit of cycling next time.
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As I recall Greg LeMond was a masher not a spinner on climbs and he did fairly well.
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I started riding last July at 68 years old. Gentle hills killed me and it was granny gear and 6 kilometers per hour. Had to stop and catch my breath at the top of hills. Maybe 3% grade and a quarter mile long. 1900 kilometers later, I climb those hills at 22 kilometer per hour without dropping speed. It's still hard, but it's amazing how much faster you become after a while, and how far you can go in a single ride.
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Jan Ullrich and Thomas Voeckler mashed bigger gears than most of their rivals. I remember Ullrich using his TT bike and staying in aero position in a tall gear with a slow cadence on a lot of the TT up Alpe d'Huez in the 2004 TdF. It looked like he was going slow, but he posted the fastest time until Lance beat it by 1:01. Voeckler would get out of the saddle for fairly long periods, jumping up and down on the pedals with a slow cadence (definitely not what you'd call "dancing") and violently rocking the bike.
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I started riding last July at 68 years old. Gentle hills killed me and it was granny gear and 6 kilometers per hour. Had to stop and catch my breath at the top of hills. Maybe 3% grade and a quarter mile long. 1900 kilometers later, I climb those hills at 22 kilometer per hour without dropping speed. It's still hard, but it's amazing how much faster you become after a while, and how far you can go in a single ride.
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His 80 cadence only looked slow when compared to Armstrong, who used a 100 cadence.
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To amplify what others have said about fitness, I do fully loaded (camping and cooking gear and warm and cold weather clothing) touring in the hilly/mountainous west (and east) with a 46 x 36 x 24 and an 11-34 cassette. (Until a few years ago my smallest chainring was a 26.) So your gearing is already low for unladed riding. With that said, you should be able to drop to a 24 with little expense if you really want to. Same for Lois.
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now has a 44/34/20 crank with an 11-36 cassette. It’s not “fitness” but “smartness” when it comes to gearing that matters. That gearing came in handy here
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My touring bike and my dual suspension mountain bike both have similar gearing and it comes in handy a lot of the time.
bygeorge: Go ahead and get lower gearing. From the information you’ve given, I suspect you cranks have 104/64mm bolt circle diameters. You should be able to put a 22 tooth gear on both cranks. You can work on fitness and have smart gearing at the same time.
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