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Old 02-23-11, 11:39 AM
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Originally Posted by merlinextraligh
+1 to the comments about hand on top near stem, and looking down the road.

Don't look at the bottle cage; look where you want the bike to go, and it will keep going there.

Also, bend your elbow and relax. Keeping your arm tense is likely part of your problem.
Best advice yet, same for all vehicles, look where you want to go, your body will steer you there. The trick is being able to reach down to the bottle without looking at it. My wife has a similar problem, she can't look behind herself without steering the same way she turns her head, same issue.
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Old 02-23-11, 05:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Velo Vol
I missed that.

It has all become clear now.
Oh..... don't even go there

I'm not a local. I'm a Puerto Rican among a bunch of Git her don boys
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Old 02-23-11, 05:25 PM
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Originally Posted by merlinextraligh
+1 to the comments about hand on top near stem, and looking down the road.

Don't look at the bottle cage; look where you want the bike to go, and it will keep going there.

Also, bend your elbow and relax. Keeping your arm tense is likely part of your problem.
Yes, I'm thinking this plays into it quite a bit. And let's not even talk about the drops. I squeeze the hell out of those when I go in them.
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Old 02-23-11, 05:26 PM
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Originally Posted by zeo_max
Oh..... don't even go there

I'm not a local. I'm a Puerto Rican among a bunch of Git her don boys
Wepa!
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Old 02-23-11, 05:27 PM
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Originally Posted by 2ndGen
Wepa!
Que es la que pana ?
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Old 02-23-11, 05:31 PM
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Originally Posted by zeo_max
Que es la que pana ?
Yo? Aqui chilliando!

I'm moving to West Virginia soon, so believe you me, I know "where" you're @.
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Old 02-23-11, 05:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Chimera21
That last bit is a tip that might work, actually.

But not everyone is a 'natural' cyclist. And, if you're coming into it late, or with bad balance, or whatever myriad of problems people take with them when they jump on a bike, coordinating pedals, handlebars, steering, speed, and a water bottle can be tricky.

Obviously if this is a problem you shouldn't be going on group rides and wobbling into other people, but simply purchasing a road bike doesn't grant previously missing coordination. Some of us will be a little remedial for a while in some areas, and the only way to sort it out is to ride.

I, personally, practiced on a grass field so if I did end up falling over I wouldn't have to worry about me or my bike.
I think this is getting deeper to the point here, so maybe so should I. It's my first road bike, I was able to drink while riding on my MTB. Also, it's my first time riding clipless, so this adds a little more to the fear of falling. I never even rode the bike with any other pedals, just went first time road bike and first time clipless all at the same time.
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Originally Posted by zeo_max
It's annoying. I have to stop every time I wanna drink water. If I start to get one hand away from the handlebar my front wheel starts going everywhere. Can't keep my balance. It just feels like most of my weight is put on the front of the bike, hence the problem. I've noticed that putting the hands on the tops helps a bit, but no cigar on reaching that bottle.

Any tips ?

Oh and I can't wave, so that's my excuse for that other thread
Move saddle back.
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Originally Posted by 10 Wheels
Get one of theses

I didn't read the whole thread, but in case no one said it those things are known as "Bottle Launchers"
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Originally Posted by DCnoJ
Move saddle back.
Wouldn't that make me lean even more and hence put even more pressure on the front ?
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Originally Posted by datlas
I didn't read the whole thread, but in case no one said it those things are known as "Bottle Launchers"
Use Proper bottles and have No Problems.
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Old 02-23-11, 06:09 PM
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Originally Posted by 10 Wheels
Use Proper bottles and have No Problems.
Maybe. I still don't trust them....call me a BLB (bottle launcher bigot) but I can't help myself.
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Old 02-23-11, 06:19 PM
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Originally Posted by zeo_max
Oh..... don't even go there
Guilty by residence.
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Old 02-23-11, 06:54 PM
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Originally Posted by datlas
Maybe. I still don't trust them....call me a BLB (bottle launcher bigot) but I can't help myself.
Take a good look. They use the exact same bottle cages used elsewhere on your bike.
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Originally Posted by zeo_max
It's annoying. I have to stop every time I wanna drink water. If I start to get one hand away from the handlebar my front wheel starts going everywhere. Can't keep my balance. It just feels like most of my weight is put on the front of the bike, hence the problem. I've noticed that putting the hands on the tops helps a bit, but no cigar on reaching that bottle.

Any tips ?

Oh and I can't wave, so that's my excuse for that other thread
Keep your eyes steady and on the road well in front of you. Reach down feeling the tube to guide you to water bottle. Grasp at neck and pull out upward with STEADY smooth move. Keep your eyes on the road ahead at all times. Drink using teeth to open nipple. KEEP YOUR EYES on the ROAD ahead at all times while doing this. Close nipple with teeth. Keep your eyes on the road ahead steadily whilst you move the bottle down frame to cage . Push bottle smoothly into cage while keeping your eyes on the road. At no time do you ever actually look at the bottle. Keep your eyes on the road.
This should see you through many years of safe drinking and the fundamental rule ( test question-what do you do) can be extrapolated to other activities such as eating, zipping and unzipping jerseys, even peeing for the men out there.
Did I mention...Keep you....
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If your saddle is too far forward, your balance will be off and you'll put too much weight on the bars. By moving it back you shift your center of mass back, improving balance. You should be holding your handlebars, not putting all your weight on them.

Core strength is also important.

As a demonstration, stand up and learn forward. Notice that your ass goes backwards to compensate. Try to learn forward without it. You'll fall on your face before learning anywhere near as far as you could before.
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Originally Posted by zeo_max
Wouldn't that make me lean even more and hence put even more pressure on the front ?
Yes and no.

You may lean more forward depending on the reach to the handlebars, but your center of gravity will still be further to the rear of the bicycle. Neruil gives a good explanation of this in the above post. Like you said, "It just feels like most of my weight is put on the front of the bike, hence the problem." If you feel that's the problem then move more weight to the rear. Start with moving it back no more than 5mm at a time. Get used to the initial adjustment by riding with it for a few weeks and move it more if you feel the need later.

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Originally Posted by zeo_max
It's annoying. I have to stop every time I wanna drink water.
Sorry, I can't feel your pain because there was never a point in my life where I was so unskilled.

This is such a simple thing that you either get it or you don't.

I find it amusing that people think they can talk you through it on an internet forum. Saddle adjustments? Really?
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Originally Posted by colombo357
Sorry, I can't feel your pain because there was never a point in my life where I was so unskilled.
Just when you think you've already seen the biggest dbag reply that this group can come up with...zing! They hit you with another.
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Originally Posted by zeo_max
I think this is getting deeper to the point here, so maybe so should I. It's my first road bike, I was able to drink while riding on my MTB. Also, it's my first time riding clipless, so this adds a little more to the fear of falling. I never even rode the bike with any other pedals, just went first time road bike and first time clipless all at the same time.
When I got my first road bike, I was initially a bit skittish when I was riding it: after the 68 or 69 degree headtube angle and massive wheelbase of my Niner, road bikes felt really twitchy and nervous. The first few rides, I was convinced that if I didnt have both hands on the bars, I'd crash. Then I got used to it and realized that my MTB background had given me reasonably good bike handling skills.

Your nervousness is understandable but it is also in your head. Perhaps try adding one thing at a time - go back to platform pedals and practice riding one-handed and working your bottle, jersey, etc. Then, once you are comfortable with handling the bike, switch to clipless.

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Originally Posted by ScoJo
Just when you think you've already seen the biggest dbag reply that this group can come up with...zing! They hit you with another.
Sounds like someone is appropriate to put on ignore. Don't let them grind you down.
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Originally Posted by colombo357
Sorry, I can't feel your pain because there was never a point in my life where I was so unskilled.
It beats crashing, if that is the alternative.
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Originally Posted by JTGraphics
Search will get you the answer

I have never had a this issue but I can tell you I do know some who do.
I have a co-worker that can not ride one handed so believe
Geez. I hope that this^^^^ isn't code for something else.
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