invisiblehand

You'll always get a slower response than giving them a ring. Since it's been a few days with a holiday, I would call.

fietsbob

the Yak Forum mentioned another one being sold on Eugene CL. an under seat steered version .

pm124

Bike Friday got back to me. We are trying to figure out what to do. They offered to make another repair on the frame, but I would be too scared to ride it at this point to be honest.

pm124

The under seat steer was the MK I.

fietsbob

Another folding recumbent.. HP Velotechnik Grasshopper HP Velotechnik - Products - Grasshopper fx (recumbent)

Joe Remi

I think you should push for a warranty replacement with a current Bike Friday. It's pretty clear you bought a bicycle that does not function as designed, and is not safe to ride.

mastershake916

Yeah! They messed up by letting that bike be sold in the first place. They'd get off cheap by replacing it with a current model bike. Glad that you weren't hurt.

ziqpy

To be fair, you can see the weak points in their designs. I'd get maybe a partial refund of some sort, and change brand.

Dahon.Steve

I would be surprised if Bike Friday did a complete refund since the OP is not the original owner. If seen a number of recumbent You can make a folding bike into a recumbent using the CruzBike conversion kit. A number of people have done them on this forum.

fietsbob

How about Get it repaired , and then sell it ? make it someone else's problem .

the Grasshopper, above, can be built up with premium German components.

invisiblehand

Well ... I recall you writing that you were happy with the touring model. Perhaps you can ask them to beef it up a bit.

Joe Remi

Bike Friday would be crazy to put that particular SatRday back on the road. They need to take the bike back and offer the OP some kind of trade deal on a new or reconditioned BF.

fietsbob

Machining a much thicker ring and slotting it to pinch around the frame piece is how I, as the son of a career Machinist, would think my way around that issue.
Add More Steel 4~5 mm wall thickness, should do it.

now if you subscribe to a Curse theory of inanimate objects then that is another story..

guess the Scrap price for steel is pretty low to just saw it up and take what the scrap yard offers..

pm124

They are offering the original owner 15% back. He was kind enough to reach out to them. I returned the bike to him. He is now asking for 25% of the cost of the frame, with just the frame returned.

pm124

It is all Dura Ace and Chris King, so the components are worth 15% of the price of the bike to begin with, so that doesn't make any sense!

fietsbob

Leaves You with the 'Strip it and toss the rest in the bin', option . Cut it up so no one else will try to rebuild it ..

dahoneezz

I don't understand the second picture. Looks like some thin plates with "metal tongue" slotted through. Very bad corrosion as well. Perhaps someone will reply, yeah its 2016. Me curious. :-)

Stadjer

I believe part of what defines a bike is that it's a construction that holds 2 wheels, a seat an some steering device together in a durable way. Things can break down but this was never designed to hold, it doesn't qualifie as a bike. I've seen gear shifters attached to handlebars in a more solid way. Bikes are made out of tubes, not out of strips, for a reason. The manufacturer really has no excuse, but the buyer wasn't paying attention either.

jcastle

Looks like heat affected zone near stay/tube-clamp was underdesigned, breaking on both sides identically. If not post-heat-treating these stays (they don't heat treat anything?), should have doubled+ up on wall thickness here. I think they've been caught several times not testing critical zones that should have been stuck on a fatigue life jig and stress automated until failure.

tmesis

Distressing to read. Bike Friday seems no better than Tern in their handling of catastrophic frame failures.

linberl

BF warranty is only to the original owner. Hopefully, they will ask for the frame back so they can inspect it and then determine whether the failure was due to a build issue, abuse, or poor maintenance. If the original owner is talking with them, instead of asking for some money back he should insist on an inspection and maybe have it inspected by someone local who builds frames as well. Can't really determine a proper response if you don't have the definitive facts about what happened. IMO an appropriate resolution would be a pro-rated refund based on the time the original owner actually had use of the bike or a repair acceptable to both parties.

Pine Cone

I hope everyone realizes this is a two-year old thread on a bike that hasn't been made in in at least 10 or 15 years

bikebikebike

Was it or did they offer both USS and OSS on the 16"mk1?

Am trying to get the years on the Mk1

tds101 

Threads dead bro,...

Joe Remi

It's alive!!!!!!!!