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Old 02-26-20, 01:04 PM
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A fifth alternative to using square taper cranks on a Raleigh Twenty?

I was just reading Sheldon Brown’s Raleigh Twenty page and fifth alternative for using a square taper crank occurred to me. The fourth option Sheldon lists is:
  • A 7-series JIS square-taper spindle will work with the Raleigh bottom-bracket cups, but usually only if you use 6mm or 15/64" bearing balls and face the BB shell to 71mm.

But why not just have a custom spindle made and reuse the original cups without facing the bottom bracket shell? I understand this is pricey but surely cheaper than facing the shell and getting a custom Phil bb made (the first option listed). A custom spindle from either a machinist or maybe from Phil made to the correct width would be a nice way to use the original threads of the original shell at the original width.
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Getting the correct finish and hardness where the bearing balls run may be more difficult/expensive than you think. Machining the tapers (correctly) is also non-trivial.
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I've never heard of a custom spindle. I assume they are affordable because of mass production and that custom spindles would be prohibitively expensive.
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Originally Posted by readygetsetBen
I was just reading Sheldon Brown’s Raleigh Twenty page and fifth alternative for using a square taper crank occurred to me. The fourth option Sheldon lists is:
  • A 7-series JIS square-taper spindle will work with the Raleigh bottom-bracket cups, but usually only if you use 6mm or 15/64" bearing balls and face the BB shell to 71mm.

But why not just have a custom spindle made and reuse the original cups without facing the bottom bracket shell? I understand this is pricey but surely cheaper than facing the shell and getting a custom Phil bb made (the first option listed). A custom spindle from either a machinist or maybe from Phil made to the correct width would be a nice way to use the original threads of the original shell at the original width.
Facing a bottom bracket shell down to 71 mm is probably going to be far less expensive than having a custom spindle made and heat treated. How many local machinists are going to be willing to not only machine the bearing races to the correct dimensions, the square tapers to the correct size and angles, and then have this thing heat treated to the correct hardness for the bearings to run on and afterwards properly polish the area where the bearings will contact the spindle? Makes facing the bottom bracket spindle seem pretty simple by comparison.
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having a custom BB axle made might be the last option I would pay for. But if you must... get a bunch made and you'll be the source we link to for the next guy with a 26TPI BB wanting to use a cotterless crank. Andy
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