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Old 10-04-18, 07:28 PM
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Miyata 912 age?




I'm picking this up locally tomorrow and am wondering what year it is. I was assuming the black and pink color scheme
was just made one year but I believe thats not true. Other than needing new tires it is in very nice shape. Any idea what year it might be?
I believe everything is original on it even the seat.
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Old 10-04-18, 07:51 PM
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Look like an 86:
See 86 catalogue here, page 7.
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Old 10-04-18, 09:53 PM
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Nailed it. I used to own one. Very nice bike. That one looks pretty much bone stock. Just need some hoods, a good once-over, and maybe some more generously sized fresh rubber (it'll fit 28s, easy).
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Old 10-05-18, 04:40 AM
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Originally Posted by mikemowbz
Nailed it. I used to own one. Very nice bike. That one looks pretty much bone stock. Just need some hoods, a good once-over, and maybe some more generously sized fresh rubber (it'll fit 28s, easy).
Be careful saying "it'll fit 28s easy" -- I have a '86 Miyata 710 that has < maybe > 1mm clearance between the top of the tire and the bottom of the fork crown with my Vittoria Rubino Pro 28s --So close that if the tire is not seated absolutely evenly all the way around the rim, it'll touch. I'll probably go with a 25 on the front next time it needs tires. 28 is ok on the rear.
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Old 10-05-18, 10:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Cougrrcj
Be careful saying "it'll fit 28s easy" -- I have a '86 Miyata 710 that has < maybe > 1mm clearance between the top of the tire and the bottom of the fork crown with my Vittoria Rubino Pro 28s --So close that if the tire is not seated absolutely evenly all the way around the rim, it'll touch. I'll probably go with a 25 on the front next time it needs tires. 28 is ok on the rear.
Having owned the exact bicycle pictured in this thread, an '86 912 in that pink/black colour scheme (albeit a 60cm model), I was absolutely able to fit 28s (Gatorskins, IIRC) with good, ample clearance all around.

That said, obviously need to consider all the usual caveats about nominal tire sizing (I wouldn't be confident of a 28mm GP4000 fitting, say, as I've measured those supple, stretchy, capacious tires at fully 32mm seated on a set of rims recently), specific choice of brake caliper, etc.

YMMV.
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Ryan had a 79 Miyata 912 that was a great ride with gorgeous Shimano 600 Arabesque components.
Ryan sold it,
Ryan regrets it,
Don't be like Ryan.

Nice Score OP Enjoy
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I had that same bike, same year, same size. Top tube was too long for me. The 60cm 710 has a 3cm shorter top tube than the 60cm 912. That’s an aggressive responsive bike! I miss it, but no rug rats. It fidn’t dit.
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Here's a pic showing the 28mm tire/fork clearance on my '86 Miyata 710. These were brand new Vittoria Rubino Pro 28mm tires when this pic was taken.

One of the changes for the 710 in '86 was a new CrMo fork for 700c tires. I'd imagine the 912 used the same fork in '86 - the catalog simply says CrMo tubing, semi-sloping cast crown, forged TF ends for both...

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Seeing these tire clearance shots of mid 80’s 912’s and 710’s reminds me why my ‘79 912, which came with 27” wheels and long ago converted to 700x28’s with fenders, continues to please. It accepts true 32’s without the fenders. This shot was after the Gugificazione addition of the brazed on centerpull front brake (to accommodate that front rack and rando bag) but before reinstallation of fenders. And the top tube on my 25”/62.5cm is comfortably (for me) short at 58cm, too.


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I had a 90’ 912 and absolutely loved that bike. It was a tiny bit big for me, so I sold it. My 90’ would only fit 700x26c. What was the last year that the 912 came with 27” wheels? Are those comparable, ride and handling/geometry, to 912 of later years? I would Love to have basically the same bike that I could fit 700c wheels and larger tires on.
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What was the last year that the 912 came with 27” wheels? Are those comparable, ride and handling/geometry, to 912 of later years? I would Love to have basically the same bike that I could fit 700c wheels and larger tires on.
Looks like they’d already switched the 912 to 700C by 1981, according to the catalog for that year.
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Originally Posted by Cougrrcj
Here's a pic showing the 28mm tire/fork clearance on my '86 Miyata 710. These were brand new Vittoria Rubino Pro 28mm tires when this pic was taken.

One of the changes for the 710 in '86 was a new CrMo fork for 700c tires. I'd imagine the 912 used the same fork in '86 - the catalog simply says CrMo tubing, semi-sloping cast crown, forged TF ends for both...

Now two years later from my initial pic, the 28 Rubino Pros rub the fork crown at 90psi on hot 90°F days (even here in Cleveland OH area) so I'll likely change to a 25 front when I need to change it for any reason (flat/excessive rubbing etc). Luckily, I bought the tires in both 28 and 25 because I wasn't sure what would fit... Glad I did!
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