Cinelli Restoration - What Have We Here?
09-02-20, 05:52 PM
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Try here: https://cinellionly.blogspot.com/
09-02-20, 08:38 PM
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The large one. Of course there are exceptions, but generally stopped being used in the late 50s. If the fork belongs to the bike, its a B. If it doesn't, could be an SC. With the lozenge decal, many Bs had internal cable routing. But of course, there were ones that didn't. Also, Bs tended (again, not always) had braze on pump pegs back in the 50s. Fork crown is from a later B, 60s, if it is a B. Bottom line, I have no friggin clue whether it is a B or SC. 
Where is the bike from? Maybe you could check the serial number against Spence Wolfe's registry.
Where is the bike from? Maybe you could check the serial number against Spence Wolfe's registry.
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09-02-20, 08:39 PM
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Try here: https://cinellionly.blogspot.com/
I have now spent a few enjoyable hours on that site.
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Subscribed. Please encourage your friend to document the restoration with lots of pictures.
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09-03-20, 10:00 AM
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I found that one, didn't realize they were one and the same.
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Another question for the Campagnolo cognoscenti:
When did the 1010/1 dropout, as seen on this bike, first appear? Velo Base gives a rough date of "1960's - 1970's" but the 56 mm head badge and the vague outline of a lozenge decal both indicate this frame is from the fifties.
In answer to a couple requests, I will try to document the seat tube replacement process and post the photos in this thread, but the owner of the bike doubts that it will happen before December as he currently has a large waiting list for new frames and has an older Bianchi Specialissima in the que before this one.
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When did the 1010/1 dropout, as seen on this bike, first appear? Velo Base gives a rough date of "1960's - 1970's" but the 56 mm head badge and the vague outline of a lozenge decal both indicate this frame is from the fifties.
In answer to a couple requests, I will try to document the seat tube replacement process and post the photos in this thread, but the owner of the bike doubts that it will happen before December as he currently has a large waiting list for new frames and has an older Bianchi Specialissima in the que before this one.
Brent
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Another question for the Campagnolo cognoscenti:
When did the 1010/1 dropout, as seen on this bike, first appear? Velo Base gives a rough date of "1960's - 1970's" but the 56 mm head badge and the vague outline of a lozenge decal both indicate this frame is from the fifties.
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When did the 1010/1 dropout, as seen on this bike, first appear? Velo Base gives a rough date of "1960's - 1970's" but the 56 mm head badge and the vague outline of a lozenge decal both indicate this frame is from the fifties.
Brent
09-10-20, 07:50 PM
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The 1010/1 dropout is in the 1953 #12 catalog. I don't have a copy of the 1951 catalog to check.
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09-10-20, 09:24 PM
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Yep, and Mikkelsen, too
But, since Brent says this frame resides in Santa Cruz then Paul Sadoff is the "prime suspect", unless Keith Bontrager still lives there (don't think so). There are others in the area like Rick Hunter and the guy who builds as "Black Cat" in Aptos but I don't think those guys can claim "40 years" of experience. Jim Merz certainly can but he's a bit out of the Santa Cruz area, technically. He's now in Big Sur I believe. Then there's his pal from Specialized Chuck Teixiera who I heard just got burned out of home and shop in the recent fire in Santa Cruz mountains...terrible loss!
Merz, Litton and Sadoff come to mind. But, since Brent says this frame resides in Santa Cruz then Paul Sadoff is the "prime suspect", unless Keith Bontrager still lives there (don't think so). There are others in the area like Rick Hunter and the guy who builds as "Black Cat" in Aptos but I don't think those guys can claim "40 years" of experience. Jim Merz certainly can but he's a bit out of the Santa Cruz area, technically. He's now in Big Sur I believe. Then there's his pal from Specialized Chuck Teixiera who I heard just got burned out of home and shop in the recent fire in Santa Cruz mountains...terrible loss!
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