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Old 02-25-21, 11:04 AM
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I think that my Cervelo is around that weight, so I'd want to shoot for at least a few pounds lighter with an SS. If I'm not going to get bailed out by gearing, I at least want a substantial weight placebo to power me along.
Really? That's quite a bit heavier than I imagined it would be.

I see carbon bikes and just assume they're somewhere around the 16lb mark. But I'm quite removed from that world in a lot of ways
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Lightweight coaster brake plus bike is what I've been dreaming about for a few months
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That's a weird thing to dream about, and I speak as someone who has weird dreams.
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I can't imagine riding a fixie on my usual roads. Too many ups and downs. On a normal ride I'm doing everything from <10 mph to > 30 on that one 8 mile stretch.

EDIT: Plus, you know, my weight - enhanced gravity = need for gears.
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Originally Posted by abshipp View Post
Really? That's quite a bit heavier than I imagined it would be.

I see carbon bikes and just assume they're somewhere around the 16lb mark. But I'm quite removed from that world in a lot of ways
You know the frame is less than a quarter of the bike weight, right?
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I can't imagine riding a fixie.
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Oh, I think I'll do some push ups.
Who can guess how many I did (in a row)? [Price Is Right rules]
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Originally Posted by WhyFi View Post
I think that my Cervelo is around that weight, so I'd want to shoot for at least a few pounds lighter with an SS. If I'm not going to get bailed out by gearing, I at least want a substantial weight placebo to power me along.
My Langster's around 19 pounds with bottle cages and pedals. That's mostly stock; upgraded the brakes to Campy Potenza with TRP levers.

The stock wheelset probably weighs about 2kg, maybe a little more. That's an easy pound to lose. Carbon touch points might get you another half pound. Then, a quarter-to-a-half pound on lighter crankset.
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Originally Posted by abshipp View Post
Really? That's quite a bit heavier than I imagined it would be.

I see carbon bikes and just assume they're somewhere around the 16lb mark. But I'm quite removed from that world in a lot of ways
My aluminum road bike is around the 16 pound mark.
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Ha! Yeah, pretty much. At this point, gears and freewheeling are too integral to my riding, and I'm set in my ways, and those fixie-riding youngsters should stay off my lawn!
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Two?
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Really? That's quite a bit heavier than I imagined it would be.

I see carbon bikes and just assume they're somewhere around the 16lb mark. But I'm quite removed from that world in a lot of ways
That's just my guess - I don't have an appropriate scale and I'm not curious enough to buy one to find out. If if were rim braked, I would assume that it would in that 16lb range, so I pad that figure a bit to account for the hydro system. I will say that it does feel pretty damn light to me when I heft it without the GPS, tail light/radar, headlight/video camera, and water bottles, though.
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...and I speak as someone who has weird dreams.
Elaborate.
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Elaborate.
It was unclear if LesterOfPuppets was talking sleeping dreams or day dreams. Either way it's weird.
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Originally Posted by WhyFi View Post
Elaborate.
Be careful what you ask for. You might get it.
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You know the frame is less than a quarter of the bike weight, right?
Probably more true for carbon, aluminum, or lightweight steel frames than what I ride. I get your point though.
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Originally Posted by genejockey View Post
gears and freewheeling
You can always meet in the middle

I've always wanted to try one of those on a bike for MUP cruising, but not quite enough to actually buy one.
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It was unclear if LesterOfPuppets was talking sleeping dreams or day dreams. Either way it's weird.
No, I meant that you should tell us about your weird dreams.
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You can always meet in the middle

I've always wanted to try one of those on a bike for MUP cruising, but not quite enough to actually buy one.
Same here. I think I'm officially done with fixed gear though, even if it's 3-speed fixed.

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That's just my guess - I don't have an appropriate scale and I'm not curious enough to buy one to find out. If if were rim braked, I would assume that it would in that 16lb range, so I pad that figure a bit to account for the hydro system. I will say that it does feel pretty damn light to me when I heft it without the GPS, tail light/radar, headlight/video camera, and water bottles, though.
Lol, every time I take the front bag off of the 716 I'm shocked at how light it feels. I bet that thing plus all the tools inside is 3-4lbs on it's own.
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It was unclear if LesterOfPuppets was talking sleeping dreams or day dreams. Either way it's weird.
Since I probably won't get any framebuilding gear any time soon, I think I'll shift my focus.

My dream now is to track down one of these fabulous lighting fixtures:

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Probably more true for carbon, aluminum, or lightweight steel frames than what I ride. I get your point though.
I think my Gunnar is about 21 pounds and the frame is 4 pounds. I think 4 pounds is about what many steel frames weigh, aluminum and ti closer to 3 pounds.
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No, I meant that you should tell us about your weird dreams.
A frequent theme in my nighttime dreams is I'm in college/graduate school and I have a project due which I've procrastinated on and I'm reaching the panic stage.
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A frequent theme in my nighttime dreams is I'm in college/graduate school and I have a project due which I've procrastinated on and I'm reaching the panic stage.
This is when the best papers are written. Research 8pm-1am. Outline 1am-2pm. (half hour snack time) Writing 2:30-5am. Editing 5am-7. Set that alarm for 15mins before your first class, hopefully you didn't schedule any classes before 10
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I think my Gunnar is about 21 pounds and the frame is 4 pounds. I think 4 pounds is about what many steel frames weigh, aluminum and ti closer to 3 pounds.
My Battaglin is 22 lbs, but that's with 6 lbs of MAX frame and fork.
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