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Old 02-25-21, 01:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Velo Vol View Post
A frequent theme in my nighttime dreams is I'm in college/graduate school and I have a project due which I've procrastinated on and I'm reaching the panic stage.
For years after being done with school, every May I'd be plagued by dreaming that I was sitting in the exam for a class I didn't remember signing up for and never attended, which I needed to Ace to graduate, and which I couldn't fake because it was outside my field.

Sometimes it then morphed into the 'Naked In Class' dream, just for extra anxiety.
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Lol, every time I take the front bag off of the 716 I'm shocked at how light it feels. I bet that thing plus all the tools inside is 3-4lbs on it's own.
Ah! I'd forgotten about my tool roll and pump - those are off of the bike for the winter, too.

Like I said, I don't have a scale appropriate for my bike... but I do have a scale appropriate for that other junk. I just measured because I was curious and bored - 1lb 11.5oz for the light/cam, radar/rear, GPS, pump and tool roll.
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Originally Posted by Velo Vol View Post
A frequent theme in my nighttime dreams is I'm in college/graduate school and I have a project due which I've procrastinated on and I'm reaching the panic stage.
Not weird enough - try again.
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Originally Posted by genejockey View Post
My Battaglin is 22 lbs, but that's with 6 lbs of MAX frame and fork.
I haven't actually had it on an accurate scale, just the bathroom scale thing. It has a cf Kestrel fork with aluminum steerer and 36 spoke Open Pros and Ultegra triple group. I can feel the weight difference between it and the Seven which I think is about 3 pounds.
It would be nice to have a 15 or 16 pound bike but I would be wondering about what was going to break.

My circa 1991 Tesch is about 24 pounds.
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This is when the best papers are written. Research 8pm-1am. Outline 1am-2pm. (half hour snack time) Writing 2:30-5am. Editing 5am-7. Set that alarm for 15mins before your first class, hopefully you didn't schedule any classes before 10
I never set aside a half hour block for "snack time."
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Not weird enough - try again.
OK, a couple nights ago I dreamed that the cat I had '90s - '00s was alive and I was worried about his health conditions and unexpectedly one of his rear legs fell off.

Is that weird enough?
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Originally Posted by Velo Vol View Post
OK, a couple nights ago I dreamed that the cat I had '90s - '00s was alive and I was worried about his health conditions and unexpectedly one of his rear legs fell off.

Is that weird enough?
Getting warmer.
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I think my Gunnar is about 21 pounds and the frame is 4 pounds. I think 4 pounds is about what many steel frames weigh, aluminum and ti closer to 3 pounds.
That's pretty good. What steel is it made of?

I have a bathroom scale weight of 23.5lbs for the SLT, that's with an 1.8kg wheelset, pedals, and bottle cages. That frame is double butted CrMo on the top tube and down tube only though, I'm pretty sure everything else is straight gauge hi-ten. I'd be surprised if that frame was under 5 lbs, the fork probably adds another 2 or so.
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Getting warmer.
A large percentage of my dreamage is in the "I can't recall what just happened, but whatever it was, it was disturbing" category.
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Originally Posted by abshipp View Post
That's pretty good. What steel is it made of?

I have a bathroom scale weight of 23.5lbs for the SLT, that's with an 1.8kg wheelset, pedals, and bottle cages. That frame is double butted CrMo on the top tube and down tube only though, I'm pretty sure everything else is straight gauge hi-ten. I'd be surprised if that frame was under 5 lbs, the fork probably adds another 2 or so.
It's True Temper OX Platinum. Why is their steel named Platinum? idk.
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Originally Posted by big john View Post
I haven't actually had it on an accurate scale, just the bathroom scale thing. It has a cf Kestrel fork with aluminum steerer and 36 spoke Open Pros and Ultegra triple group. I can feel the weight difference between it and the Seven which I think is about 3 pounds.
It would be nice to have a 15 or 16 pound bike but I would be wondering about what was going to break.

My circa 1991 Tesch is about 24 pounds.
Yeah, that's how I weighed my bikes - step on scale, allow to come to rest. Pick up bike, allow scale to come to rest. Calculate difference.

The Battaglin, for all its weight, was built up with light components - Phil Wood BB, Chris King HS, Chorus components, American Classic seatpost, custom 28F/32R wheelset with White Industries hubs and Velocity rims. Still weighs at least 22lbs. It can't escape the 6lb frame. At the time it was built, that was only a slight weight penalty, and for that penalty you got a bike that gives up zero energy in a sprint.
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Originally Posted by WhyFi View Post
Ah! I'd forgotten about my tool roll and pump - those are off of the bike for the winter, too.

Like I said, I don't have a scale appropriate for my bike... but I do have a scale appropriate for that other junk. I just measured because I was curious and bored - 1lb 11.5oz for the light/cam, radar/rear, GPS, pump and tool roll.
The bag alone is about 2.2lbs. I'm thinking of switching back to the original fork and ditching the front-loaded rando cosplay thing. It's convenient but a bit unnecessary for someone who's not doing 300k+ rides or touring. Kind of going back to the 716's "sport touring" roots.

I bet going back to the nice and light stock fork and ditching the front bag and rack I could save a pound and a half or two. If the new saddle I bought works out that will be another pound saved. That would take things down to under 25lbs for 650b wheels, big tires, and full coverage metal fenders. I'd likely replace the big front bag with something like a Swift Bandito or Ourucase Smuggler.
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Originally Posted by Velo Vol View Post
A frequent theme in my nighttime dreams is I'm in college/graduate school and I have a project due which I've procrastinated on and I'm reaching the panic stage.

SMH.
Mine is that I just found out that my Constitutional Law final is in an hour and I haven't been to class all semester.

It's been 37 years since I finished school, and I still have it.
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You people need to talk real money or that metric crap. These posts that have both are confusing!

Speaking of, I went with the heavy frame from Focus. 850g. I like that bike.
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Mine is that I just found out that my Constitutional Law final is in an hour and I haven't been to class all semester.

It's been 37 years since I finished school, and I still have it.
I like the quasi-awake phase where it slowly dawns on me that actually I don't have to worry about that class.
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Originally Posted by Velo Vol View Post
A large percentage of my dreamage is in the "I can't recall what just happened, but whatever it was, it was disturbing" category.
My dream just before waking up this morning was not very weird. I was buying some stuff, including a small bouquet of flowers for my wife, and the cashier told me that the total was two hundred bucks and change. That was entirely too much and I got pissed when the cashier couldn't/wouldn't show me an itemized breakdown. Then I woke. Oh well.
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Really? That's quite a bit heavier than I imagined it would be.

I see carbon bikes and just assume they're somewhere around the 16lb mark. But I'm quite removed from that world in a lot of ways
I think most higher end crabon bikes are 16-17 pounds. Drop a pound or two for a ww build. Realize published “weights” often exclude pedals and bottle cages if they are coming from a manufacturer.

Two points of reference: my CF Roubaix weighs 17 and my Ti Habanero weighs 19. Guess which one rides better and gets 90% of my saddle time?
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Originally Posted by LAJ View Post
You people need to talk real money or that metric crap. These posts that have both are confusing!

Speaking of, I went with the heavy frame from Focus. 850g. I like that bike.
If it's under 2kg, I have a frame of reference. Beyond that, I have to think about the conversion too much.
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I think most higher end crabon bikes are 16-17 pounds. Drop a pound or two for a ww build. Realize published “weights” often exclude pedals and bottle cages if they are coming from a manufacturer.

Two points of reference: my CF Roubaix weighs 17 and my Ti Habanero weighs 19. Guess which one rides better and gets 90% of my saddle time?
I just keep harking back to an article in the now-defunct "Bicycle Guide" magazine, where they stretched the limits of (then-current) technology to create a 16 lb bike that used components like Modolo's plastic downtube shfters that had a reputation for breaking off in your hand, brakes known for not stopping well, and it was so noodly it was practically unrideable by anyone over 150 lbs. And now you can get the Specialize Aethos that weighs under 14 lbs, has STIs and disk brakes, and will support people up to 275 lbs.

We've come a long way, baby.
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Just let me have this one.

I will allow it.
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Ha! Perfect -


Also, I just saw Puck Moonen's latest IG post and lost my train of thought for a moment or three.
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Really? That's quite a bit heavier than I imagined it would be.

I see carbon bikes and just assume they're somewhere around the 16lb mark. But I'm quite removed from that world in a lot of ways
never assume. My Tarmac disk is a shade over 18 lbs.
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Originally Posted by genejockey View Post
I just keep harking back to an article in the now-defunct "Bicycle Guide" magazine, where they stretched the limits of (then-current) technology to create a 16 lb bike that used components like Modolo's plastic downtube shfters that had a reputation for breaking off in your hand, brakes known for not stopping well, and it was so noodly it was practically unrideable by anyone over 150 lbs. And now you can get the Specialize Aethos that weighs under 14 lbs, has STIs and disk brakes, and will support people up to 275 lbs.

We've come a long way, baby.
The Aethos is also gorgeous. I love how simple it is.
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Who can guess how many I did (in a row)? [Price Is Right rules]
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