robertorolfo

What's funny about the tunnel is that I would have never thought about it either, and I always went around it on my daily commute. Then one night I passed some guy, but a few minutes later he was inexplicably in front of me again. When I passed him the second time, he said something jokingly about the tunnel. So I tried it the next night and really liked it. The main thing is that it's actually MUCH safer than the bike path or other streets that run above it (especially that area right after the Trump UN Plaza building where traffic runs right through the bike lane and drivers never bother to look for you). There is no cross street traffic in the tunnel, so no hidden surprises, so you can go as fast as your legs will take you.

How many speeds was the cassette you ordered? I thought Exa only applied to 8 speed...

robertorolfo

But you only have two bikes...

tomato coupe

Really only one, since the two bikes are the same.

DaveSSS 

Two bikes is plenty. The second can be handy if the first needs some sort of repair. I liked my Colnago C-RS so well that I couldn't pass up the opportunity to update my 16 year old LOOK KG-461 for only $500. Paid $750 with freight for the new frame and sold the old one for $250.

robertorolfo

We were just teasing you, seeing as most of us are bike obsessed. (Cue people scoffing at "two bikes is plenty," especially if they are the same and don't scratch the variety itch)...

tomato coupe

Owning two identical bikes would be like eating bologna sandwiches for every meal. Of course, if you're absolutely convinced that bologna is the perfect food for everyone, then you should eat bologna for every meal.

robertorolfo

Or maybe, maybe, you could justify it by having different groupsets on them, so that you have an identical base platform for comparing the two. But, alas, they both have the same...

fietsbob

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bologna

nomadmax 

I have spare 10 speed Ergo shifters rebuilt/stored and ready for service. I just ordered six Campy 12-30 10 speed cassettes and chains. Ten speed stuff isn't hard to find.

robertorolfo

6 of each? And how many sets of Ergos do you have? Hoarding, or just a lot of projects?

nomadmax 

A pair or Guerciottis
A pair of Colnagos
A pair of Merckxs plus a couple others running Campy 10 speed that all get ridden

zacster

Here’s the thing about having multiple bikes that all get ridden, none of them get ridden a lot. Even with just my commuter bike and road bike I found that lube lasted a really long time on the chain and the chain itself had lasted. My bike time was split pretty evenly. Since I stopped commuting the road bike gets a lot more us and needs more frequent attention.

Drew Eckhardt 

Ten speed stuff is easy to find, although the specific ten speed parts you want may be and if you weren't particular about your bicycle parts you wouldn't have gone through the trouble of riding Campagnolo.

10 speed Ultrashift levers ended with the 2010 model year, and the NOS supply dried up years ago. 11 speed levers matching replacement right 10 speed mechanisms were discontinued in 2014. I have some in my spare parts bin. I have spare NOS 2006 Record Titanium triple derailleurs too.

According to Campagnolo "The Campagnolo 10 speed Veloce 13-26 cassette is currently still available according to our B2B inventory in Italy. I am sure it will not be produced for many more years and I would not expect any other distributors to bring them in any longer."

8 speed parts were still available after 2000, although all but the 12-23, 12-26, and 13-26 cogs were discontinued within 4 years of the 9 speed introduction in 1997.

9 speed freehubs for steel axle cup and cone hubs plus 9 speed index cams for pointy hood levers disappeared shortly after that.

robertorolfo

Reading this makes me anxious...

Litespud

The good thing is that the "big parts" like shifters and derailleurs last for ages with a little care and attention - my derailleurs are early 2000's and still perfect, and I recently had my shifters overhauled for the first time in 16 years - if I get another, say, 10 years out of them, I may go crazy and upgrade to 11- or 12 sp. In the meantime, 10sp wear items are still available. I've been using TA rings for years, and they're not going away - likewise with 10sp chains. The only thing I'm concerned about are cassettes, but they're still available and Veloce 10sp is relatively cheap. I usually buy the next cassette as soon as I install the last one, but this time I may stock up on 1, 2 or even 3 12/23s. I think they're going to start to get harder to find, but it'll just mean we'll have to hunt a little more and pay a little more, but it'll still be peanuts relative to the enjoyment they'll provide. A $100 Veloce cassette will sting a little when I'm pressing the "Buy it Now" button, but that'll be forgotten as soon as it's on the bike

fietsbob

Asia and Italy are competing in the engineering marketplace.. Campag plays catch up these days..

robertorolfo

That's just the thing. Because I (we) expect the non-wear parts to pretty much last forever, with just a little bit of maintenance here and there, it's scary to think of a great group suddenly hampered by the lack of a cassette. And if they become slightly more expensive I can deal with that, so long as they are available in the marketplace.

Depends on exactly what you mean by "catch up." Like it or not, they have had 12 speed for a while now, while Shimano does not.

rosefarts

I wasn't happy with the Miche I tried, thought it was kinda sloppy compared to the Chorus and Veloce cassettes I have. However, I've heard they work flawlessly for most people.

So they may be an option, you can even assemble it however you want with single cogs.

They are pretty heavy though.


​​​​​Can I still rebuild my 10 speed shifters? The right is a little soft, even though it's not missing shifts.

zacster

Hmmm, maybe I should just look for another 13-26. I'm 65 and it could be the last cassette I'll need. For that matter I won't care if my chain and cassette get more worn out than optimal, it isn't like I'm going to lose a race because of it.

robertorolfo

Absolutely. New springs are cheap and available from a few sources. Maybe grab some cables too and have at it...

fietsbob

Sram does, theyre in ROC, spawning the one by thing..

robertorolfo

I always just considered SRAM to be an American company, but I admit that I don't know the ins and outs of their manufacturing locations.

rosefarts

In fairness, Shimano went 12 speed and 10t this year for their best 3 mountain group. Road should be soon.

I don't care for the action of a Shimano STI, but if keeping Campy becomes even more of a jewelery hobby (shiny and expensive but not really better) then I'd be happy to switch at that time. I've got quite a bit of time with my group though.

fietsbob

well the Marketing investment brokers and lawyers may be in the US, but when they did a buyout-takeover of Sachs in Germany ..
removing the production machinery from the shop floor , they shipped it all to to Taipei..

DaveSSS 

Campy was first with road 12 speed and used the same hubs as 9,10 and 11. They've been leading with their road groups, from 10 to 11 to 12.

Campy offers XDR and microspline conversions for many of their wheels.