How Sad; Who Would Prefer A Cruiser Bike Over A Brompton?
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How Sad; Who Would Prefer A Cruiser Bike Over A Brompton?
If you are curious as I was, here it is:
Pink Brompton M6L folding bike bicycle - $1300 (Sherman Oaks)
(Sherman Oaks Is A Nice & Financially Blessed Suburb Of Los Angeles )
".......6 speed, current model. Comes with set of Eazy wheels and front light. Purchased from Electric Bikes L.A. (a really large folding/electric bicycle retailer in Los Angeles) a year ago.
This foldable bike is in mint condition. If this listing has caught your eye, I imagine you already know all about the Brompton, the ultimate in folding bikes from Britain. I love my Brompton so I bought one for the wife. Unfortunately, she seems to prefer her beach cruiser bike so... here it is......."-https://losangeles.craigslist.org/sfv...709089029.html
What do you think of this bike? IMO, the only hold back to this particular mint condition beautiful Brompton is not the price, it's the color! It seems to me you might lose 50 percent of the possible purchaser population due to pink prejudice as a "girly" bike. Even my boring red Brompton has a better chance at finding a purchaser (assuming that I would ever part with it-my strong answer is never!).
Some photos below if ad is still up.
Pink Brompton M6L folding bike bicycle - $1300 (Sherman Oaks)
(Sherman Oaks Is A Nice & Financially Blessed Suburb Of Los Angeles )
".......6 speed, current model. Comes with set of Eazy wheels and front light. Purchased from Electric Bikes L.A. (a really large folding/electric bicycle retailer in Los Angeles) a year ago.
This foldable bike is in mint condition. If this listing has caught your eye, I imagine you already know all about the Brompton, the ultimate in folding bikes from Britain. I love my Brompton so I bought one for the wife. Unfortunately, she seems to prefer her beach cruiser bike so... here it is......."-https://losangeles.craigslist.org/sfv...709089029.html
What do you think of this bike? IMO, the only hold back to this particular mint condition beautiful Brompton is not the price, it's the color! It seems to me you might lose 50 percent of the possible purchaser population due to pink prejudice as a "girly" bike. Even my boring red Brompton has a better chance at finding a purchaser (assuming that I would ever part with it-my strong answer is never!).
Some photos below if ad is still up.
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Could it be the men's saddle she didn't like, or is it a bike pilfered from someone in West Hollywood?
I rode my big Electra cruiser to the store and/or the local donut shop (for muffins) most days while living in Ventura, CA, but it was a pain in the knees to do more than that. That's why I sold it last year.
Then there's riding a cruiser in Sherman Oaks - doesn't fit IMO. That's not a Ventura Blvd type of bike; besides you'd be killed in traffic.
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I rode my big Electra cruiser to the store and/or the local donut shop (for muffins) most days while living in Ventura, CA, but it was a pain in the knees to do more than that. That's why I sold it last year.
Then there's riding a cruiser in Sherman Oaks - doesn't fit IMO. That's not a Ventura Blvd type of bike; besides you'd be killed in traffic.
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Despite the steel construction,Brommies don't ride that well. Maybe she likes the big bouncy tires on the cruiser. Or maybe the riding position. Or the handling. Or the brakes(maybe she rocks the coasters). Or the gearing. Whatever. If the missus doesn't like the Brommie,that's her prerogative.
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Remember the GC leader's jersey in the Giro D Italia is Pink, for the same reason the TDF one is Yellow
the Sports News paper that started the thing was printed on that color paper. [+ you can tell who's ahead]
BTW
Brompton ships a Unisex saddle , that's it.
the new ones added a handle under the nose .
I ordered their prior Lightweight option; Unisex Fizik Vitesse, Brompton's batch order got a high clearance rail bend ,
to shove the saddle back further, even on seat posts with a large portion of the clamp mech above the rails..
I got it to get more setback on my Koga WTR, which has an Airwings Touring seatpost, (w suspension)
handle under the nose saddle loses that setback.. But their bike has the seat tube passing behind the BB anyhow..
the Sports News paper that started the thing was printed on that color paper. [+ you can tell who's ahead]
BTW
Could it be the men's saddle she didn't like
the new ones added a handle under the nose .
I ordered their prior Lightweight option; Unisex Fizik Vitesse, Brompton's batch order got a high clearance rail bend ,
to shove the saddle back further, even on seat posts with a large portion of the clamp mech above the rails..
I got it to get more setback on my Koga WTR, which has an Airwings Touring seatpost, (w suspension)
handle under the nose saddle loses that setback.. But their bike has the seat tube passing behind the BB anyhow..
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I don't see the attraction of cruiser bikes but I often wonder if I'd stick with small wheeled bikes were it not for the limitations of my housing situation. I had an experience recently on the Brompton where I was having to pedal continuously to keep up with a guy on a road bike who was just coasting. He wasn't even lycra-clad either so I couldn't rationalise it as merely a result of aerodynamics. I didn't feel too pleased with my bike over that stretch of road.
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Maybe a 451 wheel Bike Friday silk.. would be a faster but still fold up option,,
get it Caprio (9-26t)and Ultegra-brifter drop bar too..
get it Caprio (9-26t)and Ultegra-brifter drop bar too..
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I don't see the attraction of cruiser bikes but I often wonder if I'd stick with small wheeled bikes were it not for the limitations of my housing situation. I had an experience recently on the Brompton where I was having to pedal continuously to keep up thwi a guy on a road bike who was just coasting. He wasn't even lycra-clad either so I couldn't rationalise it as merely a result of aerodynamics. I didn't feel too pleased with my bike over that stretch of road.
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My Brompton has generally felt slow which seems odd to me since the rear suspension and Pantour hub I've been running ought to compensate for the increased rolling resistance of small wheels. I make sure everything is adjusted well.
Perhaps the tyre liner in the back is affecting rolling resistance more than I'd previously thought. Perhaps the slight lateral play in the Pantour hub means the rim is sometimes skimming the brake pads, which need to be adjusted to within a couple of millimetres of the rim due to the short cable pull of calliper brakes.
But the biggest factor seems to be gear hubs. I've spent years trying to figure out my SA 5 speeds and it's only in the last few days since switching to oil lubrication that they're feeling really smooth and performing as I'd thought they ought to.
Given that the Brompton chain tensioner applies a massive force to the chain when the bike is unfolded (in order that there's enough tension to hold the chain when folded) there's already a fair amount of energy lost in the drivetrain, so it's crucial that everything else is adjusted optimally.
Perhaps the tyre liner in the back is affecting rolling resistance more than I'd previously thought. Perhaps the slight lateral play in the Pantour hub means the rim is sometimes skimming the brake pads, which need to be adjusted to within a couple of millimetres of the rim due to the short cable pull of calliper brakes.
But the biggest factor seems to be gear hubs. I've spent years trying to figure out my SA 5 speeds and it's only in the last few days since switching to oil lubrication that they're feeling really smooth and performing as I'd thought they ought to.
Given that the Brompton chain tensioner applies a massive force to the chain when the bike is unfolded (in order that there's enough tension to hold the chain when folded) there's already a fair amount of energy lost in the drivetrain, so it's crucial that everything else is adjusted optimally.
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I'm not sure I'm following this. Yes, smaller wheels have slightly increased rolling resistance (although you can mitigate this with different tire choices), but rear suspension isn't going to help this (and may actually add sources or energy loss). The same goes for the suspension hub.
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Edited to add: I bought my Brompton from a friend who hated it; lucky me! She had gone back to school, and she said she hated carrying it. I can see that would be a pain if you don't have a safe place to park it, but she's also a bit of a hothouse flower that way. He husband bought her a Bianchi, some kind of city bike, almost a cruiser, I guess. She's much happier.
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The chain tensioner is a simple and effective design solution but by no means ideal. The coil spring used means that when the tension arm is in the unfolded position the amount of force on the chain is much greater than necessary, just in order that there's enough force applied once it's swung 130 degrees or so in the folded position and the spring is less wound. Pulling the chain taut like this means that there's much more friction as it engages / disengages with teeth on the multiple cogs: sprocket, chainring and jockey wheels. I'm more and more seeing the logic of Brompton sticking with 3 speed hubs given the extra friction introduced by the tensioner. Combine that with a Nexus 7 and it'd be drag city.
As for suspension, well, Mr Moulton has already addressed those issues. On imperfect roads the trajectory of the majority of the mass is diverted less by obstacles if it's suspended. Road imperfections are greater proportionally to small wheels than to large.
As for suspension, well, Mr Moulton has already addressed those issues. On imperfect roads the trajectory of the majority of the mass is diverted less by obstacles if it's suspended. Road imperfections are greater proportionally to small wheels than to large.
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Amazing the new 'terminology' one learns here on the Bike Forum! I guess that means she's a bit fussy.
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I had an experience recently on the Brompton where I was having to pedal continuously to keep up with a guy on a road bike who was just coasting. He wasn't even lycra-clad either so I couldn't rationalise it as merely a result of aerodynamics. I didn't feel too pleased with my bike over that stretch of road.
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Am I alone in particularly liking pink for a folding bike?
If I were ever to pass a 'fast/serious' cyclist on one of these things, the pink frame would just rub salt into the wound. Even once would be worth it.
Baby blue could be an alternative for the insecure
My better half prefers a cruiser too and would never get on a folding bike.
If I were ever to pass a 'fast/serious' cyclist on one of these things, the pink frame would just rub salt into the wound. Even once would be worth it.
Baby blue could be an alternative for the insecure
My better half prefers a cruiser too and would never get on a folding bike.
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I wouldn't be surprised if the saddle were half of her issue with the B.
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The old standard saddle was worse.
.. but, being so not-precious, it was something that took banging around well..
.. but, being so not-precious, it was something that took banging around well..
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Well back to the original post. I have had cruisers (still have one) and folders (have a Brompton) and can say that it depends where you use it. My cruiser is single speed so just used for messing out, but is super comfy to ride with the Brooks B73 and Schwalbe 28'' Big Apples on it. I cant say the same about the folder but that is more for commuting, ability to fold, lightness etc.
Horses for courses as they say here in the U.K.
Horses for courses as they say here in the U.K.
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Would totally have ordered that color if it was available.
Have you guys ridden a cruiser lately? They're pretty fun.
Being pretty new to the folding bike thing (been riding bikes for 35+ years) I found the Brompton handling took some getting used to. I'd take the cruiser too under other circumstances.
Have you guys ridden a cruiser lately? They're pretty fun.
Being pretty new to the folding bike thing (been riding bikes for 35+ years) I found the Brompton handling took some getting used to. I'd take the cruiser too under other circumstances.
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I wouldn't wear a pink shirt.
I generally would not ever ride a pink bike.
BUT I WOULD RIDE THAT PINK BIKE. It works for me.
I'd bet you would get a lot of nice compliments from pretty young ladys wanting to ride your bike.
AND yes to beach cruisers.
My favorite was a light weight TREK Clyde with Nexus 4 speed. I had some slicks on it for a while you could pump up hard and it was pretty fast.
I still have a multi speed beach cruiser with narrowish (1.5 front) slicks. A dumpster restoration.
Its my no worry "grocery getter" You ride in a very commanding position.
I generally would not ever ride a pink bike.
BUT I WOULD RIDE THAT PINK BIKE. It works for me.
I'd bet you would get a lot of nice compliments from pretty young ladys wanting to ride your bike.
AND yes to beach cruisers.
My favorite was a light weight TREK Clyde with Nexus 4 speed. I had some slicks on it for a while you could pump up hard and it was pretty fast.
I still have a multi speed beach cruiser with narrowish (1.5 front) slicks. A dumpster restoration.
Its my no worry "grocery getter" You ride in a very commanding position.
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My wife thinks that Bromptons are awesome bicycles as long as she does not have to ride one and much prefers her city bike, her lighter townie, and her vintage Raleigh Twenty.
I have never found riding a Brompton to be all that wonderful either... will be sticking to my Raleigh 20's and Moultens for small wheeled adventures. If my adventures warranted a need for a bicycle that folded up as wonderfully and quickly as a Brompton I might consider getting one but cannot see it being a primary ride.
I have never found riding a Brompton to be all that wonderful either... will be sticking to my Raleigh 20's and Moultens for small wheeled adventures. If my adventures warranted a need for a bicycle that folded up as wonderfully and quickly as a Brompton I might consider getting one but cannot see it being a primary ride.
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Between my Swift, Moulton and Brompton, all are arranged with close to identical contact point geometry. I pick according to job ahead as all are equally comfortable.
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Look to be honest with you, small folding bikes are not known to be the most comfortable. They are convenient, and yes, sometimes it's the only kind that a person with very limited living space or a need to use multi modal transportation can own.
About a month ago, I test rode a Fuji 7 speed "forward crank" type of cruiser, and it was super fun, and very comfortable. And at $399 pretty affordable, but I don't have the space in the house, unless I store it outside which is just not going to happen!
That said, I love my two 20 inch folders but they do have their limitations.
About a month ago, I test rode a Fuji 7 speed "forward crank" type of cruiser, and it was super fun, and very comfortable. And at $399 pretty affordable, but I don't have the space in the house, unless I store it outside which is just not going to happen!
That said, I love my two 20 inch folders but they do have their limitations.
If you are curious as I was, here it is:
Pink Brompton M6L folding bike bicycle - $1300 (Sherman Oaks)
(Sherman Oaks Is A Nice & Financially Blessed Suburb Of Los Angeles )
".......6 speed, current model. Comes with set of Eazy wheels and front light. Purchased from Electric Bikes L.A. (a really large folding/electric bicycle retailer in Los Angeles) a year ago.
This foldable bike is in mint condition. If this listing has caught your eye, I imagine you already know all about the Brompton, the ultimate in folding bikes from Britain. I love my Brompton so I bought one for the wife. Unfortunately, she seems to prefer her beach cruiser bike so... here it is......."-https://losangeles.craigslist.org/sfv...709089029.html
What do you think of this bike? IMO, the only hold back to this particular mint condition beautiful Brompton is not the price, it's the color! It seems to me you might lose 50 percent of the possible purchaser population due to pink prejudice as a "girly" bike. Even my boring red Brompton has a better chance at finding a purchaser (assuming that I would ever part with it-my strong answer is never!).
Some photos below if ad is still up.
Pink Brompton M6L folding bike bicycle - $1300 (Sherman Oaks)
(Sherman Oaks Is A Nice & Financially Blessed Suburb Of Los Angeles )
".......6 speed, current model. Comes with set of Eazy wheels and front light. Purchased from Electric Bikes L.A. (a really large folding/electric bicycle retailer in Los Angeles) a year ago.
This foldable bike is in mint condition. If this listing has caught your eye, I imagine you already know all about the Brompton, the ultimate in folding bikes from Britain. I love my Brompton so I bought one for the wife. Unfortunately, she seems to prefer her beach cruiser bike so... here it is......."-https://losangeles.craigslist.org/sfv...709089029.html
What do you think of this bike? IMO, the only hold back to this particular mint condition beautiful Brompton is not the price, it's the color! It seems to me you might lose 50 percent of the possible purchaser population due to pink prejudice as a "girly" bike. Even my boring red Brompton has a better chance at finding a purchaser (assuming that I would ever part with it-my strong answer is never!).
Some photos below if ad is still up.
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Look to be honest with you, small folding bikes are not known to be the most comfortable. They are convenient, and yes, sometimes it's the only kind that a person with very limited living space or a need to use multi modal transportation can own.
About a month ago, I test rode a Fuji 7 speed "forward crank" type of cruiser, and it was super fun, and very comfortable. And at $399 pretty affordable, but I don't have the space in the house, unless I store it outside which is just not going to happen!
That said, I love my two 20 inch folders but they do have their limitations.
About a month ago, I test rode a Fuji 7 speed "forward crank" type of cruiser, and it was super fun, and very comfortable. And at $399 pretty affordable, but I don't have the space in the house, unless I store it outside which is just not going to happen!
That said, I love my two 20 inch folders but they do have their limitations.
dude~ your experience with small folding bikes is the citizen tokyo, right?
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