MarkusForest

Hello people. Here is a challenge

I am thinking of buying this Peugeot. Could anyone help with IDing this Peugeot road bike? The thing is, these are the only pictures I could get. I might go buy this as a winter project. Thoughts?

Many thanks,

randyjawa 

Look very closely at the top tube where it meets the head tube lug. The picture is unclear but the moment I saw it I suspected bent frame issue. I do hope that I am wrong.

As a project, great idea. I love these older Peugeots.

Markeologist

Depends on how cheap you can get it for. This is a lower level bike with a cottered crank and what appears to be stamped dropouts. I'd find a higher end Peugeot to put my time and money into.

MarkusForest

Ahhhh right. they are asking 100 CND. I dont know much about these bikes. I was distracted by the black lugs. hmmm. Thank you all for your time.

markk900

Those black lugs and the wheels etc mean this is a slightly higher end bike than the typical UO/AO-8; so $100CAD is not that bad given those lower end bikes go for that regularly. Needs a bit of work though.

as to year, that bike is no earlier than early 70s based on the decals. Likely around 1974.

markk900

Looks like a 1974 P10 according to this catalog entry:

https://www.bikeboompeugeot.com/Broc...0Page%2014.jpg

merziac

That's a US catalog, still a couple of inconsistencies, HB and pump pegs on TT instead of DT, CAN. model maybe?

And while I agree with the value assessment, this is a bit of an odd duck, albeit low end, Bocoma lugs are kinda cool for this and we know the "lowly" UO8 are good riders despite their BSO station.

If the wheels are good and you could/might use them, this is not the worst deal, maybe talk them down.

markk900

Perhaps a 1973 then? None of the other country catalogs have this model - they go right from the Aztec lug UO style from to ones
with Bocama lugs and forged dropouts.

BITD the first thing I did to my AO-8 was to put tubulars and QR hubs on it; this would have been a great option if I could have found one!

merziac

@markk900

Yep, hard to say, I'm just spitballin as usual.

Never seen one of these before, kinda cool, I have a couple of PX-10's and PR-10's so......

3alarmer 

...they are serviceable bikes, with lesser tubing than a PX-10 of the same era, but similar geometry. The Bocama lugs are distinctive. I upgraded the wheels and hubs on this one. With decent wheels and tyres, they work fine.

oneclick 

The frame is the bottom-end one. The only Peugeots I have seen with Altenberger brakes were 1985-ish, and this looks quite a bit earlier based on decals, so I think they were added. Don't know why, Racers are great. It's also probable that the wheels, while correct for the era, are not original. They're QR tubulars; in Canada this frame most usually was sold with 27" chrome rims, and often nutted hubs.

If you want a project go ahead and pay the $100, that's only the start (for example you can get cheap tubular tyres 3 for $50 plus shipping somewhere in the US). You'll find good replacement hub (if Normandy) bearings rare. It is almost certainly french-threaded and french-sized (tubing) which adds another level of rarity (=cost) to replacement parts. The stem may be dangerous to use (see "AVA death stem"). And let us know if your front derailleur has cracked yet.

Can you tell I love french bikes?

jdawginsc 

Might be my eyes, but the stickers look crooked on the seat tube.

I don't remember a tubed brake bridge on the lowest Peugeots...wasn't a stamped steel plate (or maybe that was just the mixte version?).

Just out of curiosity, was there a specific German/Czech/Polish market Peugeot?

Markeologist

I love the French stuff frustrating as it is. But even at $100 bucks you can do better. In my not so humble opinion, better to start with a bike of higher quality as in the end you will spend the same amount of time and money fixing up BUT if you start with a lower end bike you will still end up with a lower end bike. My basic rule of thumb is skip anything with stamped dropouts.

rustystrings61 

P10 I think, 1970-74 graphics, if you get it look for date codes on the parts. Bocama model 14 pattern II lugs are nicer than the Aztec used on A and U series bikes, angles are zippier basically an A-08 but with more upright angles and tubulars. It probably rides surprisingly well, butI like French gaspipe bikes. Good luck!

MarkusForest

Ok, thank you all for your time on this question. I am going to pass on this bike.

Like Markeologist said: "My basic rule of thumb is skip anything with stamped dropouts." Wise words I needed to hear again.

Thanks.