Peugeot identification and help with BB model fitting
07-24-18, 01:12 PM
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Id say around 1250 , i dont have any preferences regarding to triple or double , 10 speed would please me. i live in a flat area so that would be perfect. i just want to keep the frame vintage , rest has to be new but black. 
https://www.cafr.ebay.ca/itm/183098012004
https://www.cafr.ebay.ca/itm/391365155143
those are the 2 only parts i bough so far !
https://www.cafr.ebay.ca/itm/183098012004
https://www.cafr.ebay.ca/itm/391365155143
those are the 2 only parts i bough so far !
I'm relatively certain the stem you bought, though black, will not fit your bike frame's steerer.
I don't recall what size post those take, but if your 22.2 seat post fits, I'd be very surprised.
My advice at this point would be to find someone nearby in the real world who has some experience with older French bicycles and modifying them.
Enthusiasm for a new project bike is great, but I'm dubious that anyone here can talk you through everything you need to know on the internet. And every time you buy something that is a mistake, it further drives up the price of your project. Honestly, I wish I could be more positive. I don't enjoy raining on parades. Anyway, good luck, godspeed, and maybe someone else can talk you through it.
07-24-18, 03:47 PM
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....I honestly don't think you have the background or experience to make your project feasible at this point.
I'm relatively certain the stem you bought, though black, will not fit your bike frame's steerer.
I don't recall what size post those take, but if your 22.2 seat post fits, I'd be very surprised.
My advice at this point would be to find someone nearby in the real world who has some experience with older French bicycles and modifying them.
Enthusiasm for a new project bike is great, but I'm dubious that anyone here can talk you through everything you need to know on the internet. And every time you buy something that is a mistake, it further drives up the price of your project. Honestly, I wish I could be more positive. I don't enjoy raining on parades. Anyway, good luck, godspeed, and maybe someone else can talk you through it.
I'm relatively certain the stem you bought, though black, will not fit your bike frame's steerer.
I don't recall what size post those take, but if your 22.2 seat post fits, I'd be very surprised.
My advice at this point would be to find someone nearby in the real world who has some experience with older French bicycles and modifying them.
Enthusiasm for a new project bike is great, but I'm dubious that anyone here can talk you through everything you need to know on the internet. And every time you buy something that is a mistake, it further drives up the price of your project. Honestly, I wish I could be more positive. I don't enjoy raining on parades. Anyway, good luck, godspeed, and maybe someone else can talk you through it.
07-24-18, 06:38 PM
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07-24-18, 08:06 PM
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A French steerer tube takes a 22 mm stem rather than the 22.2 stem of modern bikes. It is not that hard to sand down a 22.2 stem to fit a Peugeot. If your new stem is indeed 21mm, it may actually be a bit sloppy.
Many inexpensive French bikes came with an insert at the top of the seat tube. With the insert, the interior diameter of the bikes I have measured is 24mm. My AO-8 pictured above did not have an insert and had an impossible-to-find interior diameter of 25.5. I was able to get seatposts in 25.4 (too small) and 25.6 (too large.) I went with the 24.4 and a thin shim. It has been perfectly solid. On the bikes with the insert, I bought Kalloy seat tubes in 24mm.
Fearslol, you won’t have any trouble finding parts that will fit, but you may have difficulty finding them in Black. What I suggest is finding a skilled powdercoater who can coat the parts with black paint. That way you can get what works best for your bike, and then customize it.
Many inexpensive French bikes came with an insert at the top of the seat tube. With the insert, the interior diameter of the bikes I have measured is 24mm. My AO-8 pictured above did not have an insert and had an impossible-to-find interior diameter of 25.5. I was able to get seatposts in 25.4 (too small) and 25.6 (too large.) I went with the 24.4 and a thin shim. It has been perfectly solid. On the bikes with the insert, I bought Kalloy seat tubes in 24mm.
Fearslol, you won’t have any trouble finding parts that will fit, but you may have difficulty finding them in Black. What I suggest is finding a skilled powdercoater who can coat the parts with black paint. That way you can get what works best for your bike, and then customize it.
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Excuse my ignorance what are the things on the spokes? Those fenders are spectacular
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indeed .. and a far better than you ! im sorry but dont try to sound nice when you aren't. Have a good day sir !
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A French steerer tube takes a 22 mm stem rather than the 22.2 stem of modern bikes. It is not that hard to sand down a 22.2 stem to fit a Peugeot. If your new stem is indeed 21mm, it may actually be a bit sloppy.
Many inexpensive French bikes came with an insert at the top of the seat tube. With the insert, the interior diameter of the bikes I have measured is 24mm. My AO-8 pictured above did not have an insert and had an impossible-to-find interior diameter of 25.5. I was able to get seatposts in 25.4 (too small) and 25.6 (too large.) I went with the 24.4 and a thin shim. It has been perfectly solid. On the bikes with the insert, I bought Kalloy seat tubes in 24mm.
Fearslol, you won’t have any trouble finding parts that will fit, but you may have difficulty finding them in Black. What I suggest is finding a skilled powdercoater who can coat the parts with black paint. That way you can get what works best for your bike, and then customize it.
Many inexpensive French bikes came with an insert at the top of the seat tube. With the insert, the interior diameter of the bikes I have measured is 24mm. My AO-8 pictured above did not have an insert and had an impossible-to-find interior diameter of 25.5. I was able to get seatposts in 25.4 (too small) and 25.6 (too large.) I went with the 24.4 and a thin shim. It has been perfectly solid. On the bikes with the insert, I bought Kalloy seat tubes in 24mm.
Fearslol, you won’t have any trouble finding parts that will fit, but you may have difficulty finding them in Black. What I suggest is finding a skilled powdercoater who can coat the parts with black paint. That way you can get what works best for your bike, and then customize it.
07-25-18, 08:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Fearslol 
and ill be able to put on most of the new cranks on it ?
Disagree, most of the new stuff will not mount to that BB. Vintage stuff sure, most will mount. But then you need to get the right spindle length which is based on the crankset you use, not the bike you put it on.
As a first project, french bikes have uniqueness that makes everything more complicated and more costly. The look you are seeking can be achieved with a myriad of bikes, one with standard sizing will be easier to accomplish.
and ill be able to put on most of the new cranks on it ?
Disagree, most of the new stuff will not mount to that BB. Vintage stuff sure, most will mount. But then you need to get the right spindle length which is based on the crankset you use, not the bike you put it on.
As a first project, french bikes have uniqueness that makes everything more complicated and more costly. The look you are seeking can be achieved with a myriad of bikes, one with standard sizing will be easier to accomplish.
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07-25-18, 08:48 AM
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It may result in this ! well see the parts are on the way , i dont want it to be sloppy that for sure. You're making me doubt here , i measured and re measured. But your bike is pretty awesome so and you went there before me. Looks liek you had the same struggle before me
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As a first project, french bikes have uniqueness that makes everything more complicated and more costly. The look you are seeking can be achieved with a myriad of bikes, one with standard sizing will be easier to accomplish.
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07-25-18, 09:33 AM
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...that guy who said, "Experience is the best teacher," had a point.
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Yes, I have to admit I was thinking of only modern square taper cranks. But there are a lot of those available.
Not more costly, and only a bit more complicated. As long as you know the differences, French bikes are easy to build to a modern standard using the same basic bits as any other bike.
At least some parts already on order.
To the experienced vintage bike person, French uniqueness is not that big of a deal. To someone new to the pastime, it can be challenging.
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07-25-18, 05:38 PM
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Thank you. Do you have a good micrometer? That helps a ton with getting the right fit for parts. I have heard that the frame tubing can vary in thickness, for one thing, so that what worked for one bike would not fit in another. Another thing to look out for with old frames is to make sure the seat tube has not been pinched together at the binding bolt. Look at the slot in the rear and make sure the sides are parallel. If they are pinched together at the top, you would need to open them up before trying to measure the interior diameter of the tube.
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yep i confirm there was no chrome on the fork , it was originaly all blue, i did sanded it almost completly, i will repaint it. so it would be a 77'. Any idea of the BB i would need to get for this ? this will be french i suppose ? and what about the wheels is it 650 or 700 ? thanks guyz you're awesome.
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