CyclingVirgin

Do you think I could pull these numbers off on a real bike or would I fatigue due to the elements?

I have always been told the 'real' activity is much better for you than the 'fake'...what do you guys think?

Burton

On the real world - if you climbed 8,000 feet in an hour - I'd say it was time to stop at a Ben and Jerry's to take a break!!

gerv 

It's a real bike. It just doesn't go anywhere.

canyoneagle

8,000 feet climbed and only 650 calories burned? That sure doesn't compute. 8,000 feet in 19 miles is a 7.9% average grade - easily a "Hors Categorie" climb. If you were putting out the wattage to maintain almost 18 MPH up that kind of a slope, you'd be superhuman in my book.

Maintaining 18 MPH outdoors on the flats, depending on your body weight, would burn much more than 600 calories, too.

So, methinks the computer on that bike shouldn't be trying to tell you a story if it can't at least be somewhat realistic.

marqueemoon

Based on my own experience I'd say no.

jsdavis

What is "Hors Categorie?" My ride into work has a hill with 8.5% average, but there is one section that is 16%, 80ft elevation gain over 500 ft.

Artkansas 

I find those numbers to be generous. I'll bet that even Lance would envy those numbers. The only real way to know though is to hit the highway and see what you can do.

RaleighSport

No wind, no obstacles, no traffic lights... well you get the idea. So no.

Snowman219

Takes me 15 mins to climb my lazy butt out of bed, and that's about a 3 feet climb. Sometimes I can't make it though. It's just so haaard you know?

Juha

The calories burned figure is easy to achieve, just pick a HR comp that produces similar results. Or, if you want to burn even more calories, choose another comp.

Fuel consumption is an educated guess at best, unless measured in laboratory conditions.

acidfast7

"steel is real."

Ridefreemc

Or have it delivered to where ever you are "riding" and eat it while(st) pedaling. You can afford it with those numbers.

Burton

But you're a snow guy so you've probably already done this! Blackcomb mountain is about 7,500ft of lift serviced distance to the summit and the most calorie demanding part is switching lifts on the 45 minute trip up!

Then you get to go down !

modernjess

Throw the numbers away and get outside on your bike. Ride until you are tired, do it the next day, and the next, and the next. Lather. Rinse. Repeat.


...Just my opinion.

GrouchoWretch

If I tried to do a climb like that at that speed on a bike, I'm pretty sure I'd keel over dead within the first 15 minutes. Just dig me a hole a quarter of the way there, and I'll ride up and fall into it.

CyclingVirgin

Ha! Thank you all for your amazing responses! I figured the distance and the climb numbers were a little too good to be true but I am hoping that the calorie numbers are somewhat accurate as I am trying to expend at least 1,000 calories at the gym everyday.

And yes, the real bike will come out soon. I just have to wait till the weather warms to my liking as the proper gear is clearly out of my budget.

CptjohnC

If you've ever run on a treadmill, and then tried to replicate your results in the real world, you probably have a sense of the 'unreality' of the mechanized numbers. I've had friends train for 10 mile and half marathon distances using exclusively treadmills, then run their races in the real world -- trust me when I say they crash and burn hard. Of course, that's merely anecdotal evidence -- I'm sure there are folks who would claim the opposite. But I've never seen or heard of anyone using simulators who was able to maintain 100% of performance in real world conditions. Indoor rowing training is close physically, but the skill involved in feathering, stroking in unison, etc... tends to catch those folks.

fietsbob

8,000 feet, in an Hour , you still got the landing gear down on that plane?

gunner65

1000 calories a day at the gym is a big number. I do 45 minutes of cardio everyday and burn about 350 calories (and I hit it hard) usually rowing, running, or spinning. I am sure that on my weight training days with cardio I easily burn an extra 150. I cannot imagine being able to even come close to doubling my efforts after that and I am at 500 calories. So I applaud your 1000 calorie/day goal.

caloso

All the numbers look good except the feet climbed. Otherwise, it's very doable on a flat course.

CliftonGK1

For a "real bike" comparison, I train by climbing the local mountain passes. Steven's Pass is a 16 mile climb of about 3000' from the Skykomish starting point (where the "real" climbing begins.) The previous 10 miles or so comprise the other 1000' of gain. Anyhow, last time I rode that, it was a 2.5 hour slog to the top, including some rest breaks.
I'm not saying there aren't people who go faster. Hell, Strava has a whole list of people who are faster than me.
I'm just saying that for more than twice the real world elevation in less than half the time, you'd probably burn more than 650 calories.

BTW - how old are you, because I'm looking at that avg HR of 182 and thinking to myself "S**t, bro. I'd collapse and die if I tried that." My race pace HR for 40 minutes is only in the mid 160s with a max into the mid 170s, and I usually cross the finish line and puke after that.

canyoneagle

I'll chime in that burning 1,000 calories in the gym is actually, pretty doable, considering the fact that you are going for an hour or more. While it is tough to get a sense of EXACTLY how many calories you've burned, you can get an idea by using one of the many online calculators that will give you some average calories burned per hour of a given activity, based on your weight. Here's an example:

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canyoneagle

"Hors Categorie" is a climb that is "beyond categorization" in the classification of climbs. The system rates climbs based on average grade (steepness) and total elevation gain, with Category 4 being easiest, 1 being hardest, and "HC" (Hors Categorie) being beyond a Category 1 climb.

Here's one version: https://thecycleway.com/?p=32

and another: https://cyclingskills.blogspot.com/20...g-percent.html

CyclingVirgin

I'm 28 meaning that my maximum HR is 220 - 28 which would equal 192. So I was in the 90s for my heart rate but my resistance was set to 12-14 through out the whole hour if that means anything.

CyclingVirgin

And if this is correct... I should be over 1000 calories. This is what I did last night to a tee...

Cycling for 65 min
10 min rest
FULL blown sprint for 1/4 mile
10 min rest
Elliptical for 30 min
1 Min break
1/4 mile sprint on a treadmill

Done!

Is that worth 1,000 calories?!