how much faster will dura ace get me?
#26
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If your 105 is worn out and doing such as doing things like missing shifts, then a new Dura Ace groupo will help. Of course a new 105 groupo will help also. As others have said, DA is a little lighter and works better. But we are talking seconds over many miles here. It's more the engine than the drive-train.
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A full DA/Di2 group will help you say:
"400 Watts, HTFU!" 10% faster and in a deeper more manly tone in the parking lot at Starbucks, but only if you leave it in the 53X11.
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"400 Watts, HTFU!" 10% faster and in a deeper more manly tone in the parking lot at Starbucks, but only if you leave it in the 53X11.
-Bandera
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Stick with 105. Spend the difference from DA on some Mexican Ephedra and a year's membership at Dollar Shave Club and net more significant speed gains.
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People are posting here as if you see more racers (=those that try to go faster) on 105 than DA.
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Anybody who's raced much at all, knows the extremely marginal differences we're talking about. So many cost sensitive racers race bikes that many in the 41 would be embarassed to take to the coffee shop.
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Setting aside racers who get their equipment given to them, you might be surprised what lots of people race. Admittedly, you'll see more people racing with DA than 105, but the number of people using Ultegra, 105, or even Tiagra might surprise you.
Anybody who's raced much at all, knows the extremely marginal differences we're talking about. So many cost sensitive racers race bikes that many in the 41 would be embarassed to take to the coffee shop.
Anybody who's raced much at all, knows the extremely marginal differences we're talking about. So many cost sensitive racers race bikes that many in the 41 would be embarassed to take to the coffee shop.
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I mean the only difference is material and design, the same principles apply to all road brakes. Granted crummy brakes and crummy brakes.
The difference I have experienced between red/force ultegra/105/sora, all comes down to pads and cable adjustment.
I have honestly never used DA brakes, but I cant imagine there is much of a difference.
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Dura Ace actually makes you slower....to reach retirement goals. Now if you have no retirement goals, then all bets are off....
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Correlation <> causation, but the fast guys all run the top Shimano, Campagnolo, SRAM.
Maybe its like shaving you legs.
Maybe its like shaving you legs.
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Setting aside racers who get their equipment given to them, you might be surprised what lots of people race. Admittedly, you'll see more people racing with DA than 105, but the number of people using Ultegra, 105, or even Tiagra might surprise you.
Anybody who's raced much at all, knows the extremely marginal differences we're talking about. So many cost sensitive racers race bikes that many in the 41 would be embarassed to take to the coffee shop.
Anybody who's raced much at all, knows the extremely marginal differences we're talking about. So many cost sensitive racers race bikes that many in the 41 would be embarassed to take to the coffee shop.
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If Dura-Ace will make your bike give you more of a stiffy, and ride it and clean it more, then get it
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My friend Fred said that only the fastest people have Dura Ace.