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Other than Zero Gravity, who makes a lightweight brake?

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Old 05-23-06, 04:24 PM
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Other than Zero Gravity, who makes a lightweight brake?

Been reading about Zero Gravity at Road biker review and apparently in addition to their ridiculous $400 price tag, ZG ti's are a pain to install and adjust- they are very tempermental compared to Dura-Ace

The Shimano weight is about 320g a pair and the ZG's are like 168g a set. Anything around 220g that is a decent brake?
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maybe campy record? it's not a huge market segment, you know...
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go to www.weightweenies.com, click on "listings" at the top of the page, then click on any component you're interested in and they have the advertised & actual weights listed plus some websites where the components can be bought.
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Cane Creek makes a fairly light single pivot brake.
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Campy Record for sure. They are titanium and, unlike the Zero G, they work really well at stopping the bike. However, they will be a hassle to use with a Shimano system because they don't have release levers to loosen them for mounting and dismounting wheels. Campy has the releases in the control units rather than on the brake calipers.
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I have a set of Zero Gravity brakes, and they stop my bike just as good or better than all of my Campy brakes and Shimano brakes I have tested to date.
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M5 and Ax both have crazylight brakes as well. But I can tell you that the ZGs are not hard to install or adjust. I love mine. There is also a Stainless Steel version that is only slightly heavier and a lot less expensive.
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Originally Posted by Patriot
I have a set of Zero Gravity brakes, and they stop my bike just as good or better than all of my Campy brakes and Shimano brakes I have tested to date.
Glad they work for you. They are easily the worst brakes I ever had. I got rid of them after 50 miles because I was afraid of them. Replaced them with Dura Ace. It was like going from brakeless to well braked. It's hard for me to understand how you do so well with them. Maybe there is secret to setting them up that escaped me.
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I just grab my front wheel when I want to slow down. Weight: about 220 lbs. (my hand wouldn't be there without the rest of my weighty self).

Point is: those who sweat a few dozen grams on bike parts are focused on the wrong things. Spend your money on things that will last, and spend your time on getting fit.
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Nobody has mentioned M5 yet? They're about the same weight as Zero Gravity (and cost 300 euros). The Mavic brakes can only be used with Campy levers, they don't have a quick release for the cable tension. Unless you want to carry around a hex key to release the brake when you want to take a tire out...

Pez says:

https://www.pezcyclingnews.com/?pg=fullstory&id=3590


I will say that, as upgrades go, putting these on my bike was, in a word, “noticeable”. Noticeable not for the weight savings, which is substantial compared to Record or Dura Ace, but for the immediate responsiveness they have
https://www.m5-ligfietsen.com/main.ph...e=Brams_Brakes

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just use 21mm tires and you won't have to worry about using the brake release
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Originally Posted by fmw
Glad they work for you. They are easily the worst brakes I ever had. I got rid of them after 50 miles because I was afraid of them. Replaced them with Dura Ace. It was like going from brakeless to well braked. It's hard for me to understand how you do so well with them. Maybe there is secret to setting them up that escaped me.
Do you think that the SS version being cheaper may also be better/safer?
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Any votes for the Tektro carbon 750? About $150 a set if you look hard.
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Originally Posted by fmw
Glad they work for you. They are easily the worst brakes I ever had. I got rid of them after 50 miles because I was afraid of them. Replaced them with Dura Ace. It was like going from brakeless to well braked. It's hard for me to understand how you do so well with them. Maybe there is secret to setting them up that escaped me.
I have a pair of ZG Ti brakes with Campy Record carbon gouppo for about a year.. they stop just fine and they were mounted by LBS without any problems. I heard in the past that they didn't stop well.. The 2005 version I have was as good as my previous D/A brakes. and the 2006 version is supposed to be better.
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I love how people say ZG stop better than Campy and Shimano. It is not possible for them to have the same clampin force as either since they are single pivot. Argue all you want but that is just the facts. I am not saying they don't stop the bike well but to say they stop better is just silly.

P.S. Does not mean I am not thinking about ordering a pair just because my bike is now 15.8 and I am working towards the magical 15lb mark.
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ZG were good enough for Horner when he rode for Webcor.
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Originally Posted by fmw
Glad they work for you. They are easily the worst brakes I ever had. I got rid of them after 50 miles because I was afraid of them. Replaced them with Dura Ace. It was like going from brakeless to well braked. It's hard for me to understand how you do so well with them. Maybe there is secret to setting them up that escaped me.
The ZG brakes that you got rid of, were they the 2004 or 2005 model? I'm also curious what brake pads you were using, and if it was with standard aluminum rims or carbon.
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Originally Posted by Sincitycycler
Anything around 220g that is a decent brake?
How about $40 for some 265g Diacompe BRS200s in great shape? Standard single pivot brakes... identical castings to Cane Creek and Brew brakes. The leverage ratio is ~40% less than dual pivots, so if you have weak hands they probably aren't for you. The Cane Creeks have Ti hardware and weigh ~250g. The Brews save a little bit more weight. Both cost ~$200 a pair new.
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Originally Posted by oilman_15106
Any votes for the Tektro carbon 750? About $150 a set if you look hard.
first I have heard or seen these.
They Look like a very nice brake set rather carbon, or aluminium, appreicate the web site.
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I've got a set of the Brew's FS if anyone is interested. No pads.

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How about the new FSA Energy's?

Or the Cane Creek 200SL's?
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I'm getting one of their seatposts, and their brakes are friggin' amazing.
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Originally Posted by bluecd
go to www.weightweenies.com, click on "listings" at the top of the page, then click on any component you're interested in and they have the advertised & actual weights listed plus some websites where the components can be bought.
The correct website is https://weightweenies.starbike.com/listings.php. I have made this mistake many-a-time and always pay the price in annoying popups.

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