blankets vs sleeping bags?
01-21-16, 06:30 PM
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yea, thanks for the suggestion, but I refuse to pay 4 times more than what I think it's really worth just because it's a niche item
01-22-16, 07:26 AM
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Down quilts for 3 season are awesome. I use a Jacks R Better Sierra Sniveler which can double as a down Serape saving weight and cost of a warm jacket. (forget winning fashion awards) But, light & inexpensive? pick one. What price a cozy night sleep? My JRBSS has been worth every penny.
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01-22-16, 08:33 AM
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Just got a 20-degree X-long, X-wide 800 Revelation from Enlightened Equipment. Weighs 26 ounces. Haven't tried it out in the cold yet. Hmm.... blizzard due to hit in a couple hours....
01-22-16, 09:51 AM
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Not clear at all that there is a meaningful weight saving if we talk about a solo sleeping bag vs quilt. However, zpacks offers a twin size quilt. Carrying two long medium size 20F sleeping bags would mean 1.1kg vs 791 grams for a twin quilt. In addition to weight saving, you share your buddy body's warmth. Drawback might be that the twin quilt's stuffed volume is twice that of a solo sleeping bag. Total volume is identical but you have to stow one quite large item in a pannier.
01-22-16, 10:57 AM
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I find my enlightened quilt much more comfortable than a sleeping bag, and more practical as well. I've used my 30 degree quilt from snow camping the mid teens (I was cold), to 65 or so (whatever someone's spare bedroom was at night). A quilt gives me the option of being as wrapped up, or as loosely draped as I need, which allows me to extend the temperature range quite a bit.
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01-27-16, 11:56 PM
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i got my military poncho, tried it out, and like it a lot!
twice the size of a normal blanket, half the weight of my sleeping bag. doesn't wrinkle. dirt cheap (comparatively). I'm happy
total weight of bivy+air pad+poncho+air pillow = 2.3kg. shaved around 0.4 kg off of my sleeping setup.
twice the size of a normal blanket, half the weight of my sleeping bag. doesn't wrinkle. dirt cheap (comparatively). I'm happy
total weight of bivy+air pad+poncho+air pillow = 2.3kg. shaved around 0.4 kg off of my sleeping setup.
02-02-16, 09:01 PM
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Good info on Ray's website: https://www.rayjardine.com/index.shtml
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I did that on my last tour, started in August with 90* days and 65* nights, worked well! They are really noisy, but do keep you warm. Fully clothed, in a sleeping bag liner, wrapped in a space blanket, in a hammock. After my first 40* night I picked up a sleeping bag though...
02-09-16, 08:12 PM
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That's what I ended up getting; a "Jacks R Better" quilt with rip stop nylon "wings" that tuck in to stop night time draughts. It works to some extent, but when I rolled over there would always be a lot of adjusting and I'd get cold. The wings could be tied together to approximate a sleeping bag.......but I realized why not just get a decent bag? A bag can be unzipped to function like a quilt, zipped up to stop draughts for the side sleeper and over night "roller" and has a hood to keep the head and neck warm. Expense is the only down side....{I intended the pun), but some quilts are expensive too.
I have one very good down bag for winter, they last a long time, and they pack which a winter down bag doesn't, almost takes up the whole pack. I have a NF polarguard winter bag, and it is pretty much a sled or car thing it is so big. Jardine says that one shouldn't have a down quilt, He does a lot of high altitude camping where there is always a possibility of getting hosed and cold. I'm just cheap, but I use his argument to confirm my preferences. I think if I was wanted to use a bag, and a down one at that, I wouldn't care that much about weight, and down last extremely well. So some of the arguments for a quilt go away.
I think a reason Jardine gets good use out of his quilt is that he can build them lighter than most people make a bag. I have one summer bag, that I actually like a lot, but most of the bags I ever sold were 3 season, when people spend that money they want as much range as possible. It's winter in February/Canada up here and nominally within the three season range. So most of those bags are overbuilt, and a quilt is a nifty alternative with only one layer of batting.
