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Old 04-24-19, 03:59 PM
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Time trial wheels

I want to get some TT wheels but I don’t have much cash to spend. I could get some old spinergy rev x wheels or some new Chinese wheels. Which is less dangerous? I’d love to get some old hed tri-spokes but even old ones are pretty expensive.
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Spend ~$400 on a set of Zipp 808 tubulars on ebay. Glue tires to them even if you've never glued before because in TT's you're not even really cornering. or simply wait until we have our used wheel section added to our sites and buy from there.
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Buy a disc wheel and an 808 or something for the front. Tubular. Cheap and fast.

RevX? That's seriously not a smart consideration.
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You could go with a DISC on the rear and a deep dished wheel in front..
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You could go with a DISC on the rear and a deep dished wheel in front..
Dish and section are different things...and rim brake front wheels don't even have dish.
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Originally Posted by Marcus_Ti
Dish and section are different things...and rim brake front wheels don't even have dish.


I think it's more of a pizza reference...
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On a budget, wheelbuilder disc cover on the back all day long. Then get a good front (808, HED trispoke, etc...). If dead set on a cheap rear disc, buy 11spd and shave the freehub down. Renn or an old fairing style HED. I went with the Renn since it's flat and works better with my frame style.

If you have vertical dropouts, likely a lenticular is faster for you. If you have rear facing "track" dropouts, your frame is faired to the wheel/tire shape already and can likely be as fast or faster with a flat disc.

The dropouts are that style because you can't drop a wheel straight down without hitting the frame if the wheel is shrouded. Hence, rear dropout.
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Originally Posted by rubiksoval
Buy a disc wheel and an 808 or something for the front. Tubular. Cheap and fast.

RevX? That's seriously not a smart consideration.
I know the rev-x's are a stupid but the 24 year old in me still wants them 25 years later
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Originally Posted by Marcus_Ti
Dish and section are different things...and rim brake front wheels don't even have dish.
Originally Posted by woodcraft
I think it's more of a pizza reference...
The whole "Deep Dish Wheels" is a pet peeve of mine too. But even Dan Lloyd of GCN has used the expression, so we may have to give up the fight.

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Originally Posted by dougphoto
I know the rev-x's are a stupid but the 24 year old in me still wants them 25 years later
Well, to be fair, the 24 year old in you still has 2 years on your parent's insurance.
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Originally Posted by Marcus_Ti
Well, to be fair, the 24 year old in you still has 2 years on your parent's insurance.
LOL 49 year old self employed me wants my parents insurance.
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Originally Posted by dougphoto
LOL 49 year old self employed me wants my parents insurance.
Medicare for all?

#P&R
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Medicare for all?

#P&R
I'd love it.
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Originally Posted by dougphoto
I'd love it.
Totally off topic, but it would clearly SOLVE some problems and CREATE others. That's why it is so divisive. It's a mess.
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Back on topic please.
Sorry, dad!
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Originally Posted by burnthesheep
On a budget, wheelbuilder disc cover on the back all day long. Then get a good front (808, HED trispoke, etc...). If dead set on a cheap rear disc, buy 11spd and shave the freehub down. Renn or an old fairing style HED. I went with the Renn since it's flat and works better with my frame style.

If you have vertical dropouts, likely a lenticular is faster for you. If you have rear facing "track" dropouts, your frame is faired to the wheel/tire shape already and can likely be as fast or faster with a flat disc.

The dropouts are that style because you can't drop a wheel straight down without hitting the frame if the wheel is shrouded. Hence, rear dropout.
Love the wheel cover, I'm doing that, and then I'll get a decent used front, that wheel cover will save me a ton of money
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Originally Posted by burnthesheep
On a budget, wheelbuilder disc cover on the back all day long.

Yeah, but they specifically state to NOT ride them all day long. Or every day. Or even that much.

Mine lasted like 8 races before I had to do some serious taping to keep the thing on. And at that point, the hassle wasn't even worth it.
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Originally Posted by rubiksoval
Yeah, but they specifically state to NOT ride them all day long. Or every day. Or even that much.

Mine lasted like 8 races before I had to do some serious taping to keep the thing on. And at that point, the hassle wasn't even worth it.
“All day” in terms of it as a budget choice to toss on just for a race. I’d never ride a plastic disc cover everywhere.

There is a place making a slight more expensive carbon disc cover. Can’t find it right now.

Some folks though might race twice a year. That may be fine if 8 uses lasts them 4 years.
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Originally Posted by dougphoto
I want to get some TT wheels but I don’t have much cash to spend. I could get some old spinergy rev x wheels or some new Chinese wheels. Which is less dangerous? I’d love to get some old hed tri-spokes but even old ones are pretty expensive.
Spinergy rev x is plain dangerous. Recalled 20 years ago. Never that light and never that aero. Should not be used or sold.

How fast are you? If your 40K time is above 1:05 don't even think about aero. Well, think about getting your position on the bike aero. Get some old tubular wheels, light ones. Light is going to matter at whatever speed you roll. I picked up a set 2 weeks ago for free. Ofmega hubs, Aspin rims, Campag QRs, corncob freewheel. Perfect condition, ready to roll, free. Old guys with a basement full of this stuff are giving it away. You might need some mechanical knowledge to make the old narrow wheels run with your newer bike, no amount of mechanical assistance is going to keep a Spinergy intact.

If you are faster just keep shopping. Sellers think because they paid a lot for the wheel and barely used it they should recover something. After a while they figure out their garage is packed with old ****e they can't sell. Then price meets reality. It's a hobby. An expensive hobby.
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Originally Posted by 63rickert

How fast are you? If your 40K time is above 1:05 don't even think about aero. Well, think about getting your position on the bike aero. Get some old tubular wheels, light ones. Light is going to matter at whatever speed you roll.
Just no. And no. And nooooo.
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Oddly enough it's not 1969 anymore when the total mechanical prep we did for a TT was:
1) Bury stem (we knew aerodynamics mattered)
b) Fit straight block on race wheels (nice tight gears to keep optimal cadence)
III) Install mechanical stopwatch/holder (be sure to wind the watch)
Have at it.

OP: Are you riding Merckx Class on a "standard" bike in the local TT?
If so consult the organizer on allowed rim depth, helmet/kit type and HB config before spending a $ to avoid a DQ pre-ride.

If on an open class UCI compliant TT machine run what you brung, and as in our era: Have at it.

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Originally Posted by rubiksoval
Yeah, but they specifically state to NOT ride them all day long. Or every day. Or even that much.

Mine lasted like 8 races before I had to do some serious taping to keep the thing on. And at that point, the hassle wasn't even worth it.
Good to know! I was thinking about a wheelcover for TTs, but not if it won't last. I'll just save up for a full disc.
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