Security: How much is too much?
11-27-12, 06:13 PM
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Security: How much is too much?
What's the minimum for a touring setup? Skewers and seatpost bolt? Headset? Options abound.
https://www.peterwhitecycles.com/pitlock.asp
https://www.peterwhitecycles.com/pitlock.asp
11-27-12, 07:46 PM
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What's the minimum for a touring setup? Skewers and seatpost bolt? Headset? Options abound.
https://www.peterwhitecycles.com/pitlock.asp
https://www.peterwhitecycles.com/pitlock.asp
11-27-12, 07:55 PM
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It always happens, when you are in the middle of nowhere, or when it is late at night and you need to remove the wheels, but you can't find the tool to open it. Either you did not bring it along or you forgot where you left it after you last used it.
11-27-12, 07:57 PM
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A carry a ultra light weight cable lock. Most likely someone could pull it apart with their hands and a little determined effort. Its sole purpose is to stop someone from hopping on and riding off. The real thiefs have the tools and knowledge to get past any lock.
11-27-12, 08:06 PM
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Too much security ... when the locks costs more than the bike itself
11-28-12, 12:32 AM
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just make it less convenient to walk off with.
bolt-on wheels w/standard hex bolts instead of QR. [my co-worker had a QR stolen
last month. he never noticed, until i asked him what's wrong with this picture.]
seatpost clamp with hex bolt. how often do you need to change the height anyway?
minimize removable stuff (take with when away) like computers and headlights and
clip-on pumps.
carry a decent cable lock for when you want to hike around angkor wat.
of course, if you're really paranoid, you could always weld shut your chain's
quick-release link..........
bolt-on wheels w/standard hex bolts instead of QR. [my co-worker had a QR stolen
last month. he never noticed, until i asked him what's wrong with this picture.]
seatpost clamp with hex bolt. how often do you need to change the height anyway?
minimize removable stuff (take with when away) like computers and headlights and
clip-on pumps.
carry a decent cable lock for when you want to hike around angkor wat.
of course, if you're really paranoid, you could always weld shut your chain's
quick-release link..........
11-28-12, 01:30 AM
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We carry two 1.8meter medium weight cable locks just to make the thief work a bit for the bikes. At night we put the bikes next to the tent and I hook up a 120db purse alarm from the vastibule to a spoke with fishing line in case they try to carry off both bikes in the middle of the night. It's cheap and works great, I've woken up the camping a couple of mornings when I forgot about it
Nowdays thieves use lightweight and portable battery powered cutting tools to go through just about any hardened steel lock, chain or cable on the market.
Nowdays thieves use lightweight and portable battery powered cutting tools to go through just about any hardened steel lock, chain or cable on the market.
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just make it less convenient to walk off with.
bolt-on wheels w/standard hex bolts instead of QR. [my co-worker had a QR stolen
last month. he never noticed, until i asked him what's wrong with this picture.]
seatpost clamp with hex bolt. how often do you need to change the height anyway?
minimize removable stuff (take with when away) like computers and headlights and
clip-on pumps.
carry a decent cable lock for when you want to hike around angkor wat.
of course, if you're really paranoid, you could always weld shut your chain's
quick-release link..........
bolt-on wheels w/standard hex bolts instead of QR. [my co-worker had a QR stolen
last month. he never noticed, until i asked him what's wrong with this picture.]
seatpost clamp with hex bolt. how often do you need to change the height anyway?
minimize removable stuff (take with when away) like computers and headlights and
clip-on pumps.
carry a decent cable lock for when you want to hike around angkor wat.
of course, if you're really paranoid, you could always weld shut your chain's
quick-release link..........
11-28-12, 09:00 AM
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11-28-12, 10:40 AM
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Paint your bike flat black. Remove all useless stickers and shiny stuff. A few days on the road and your stuff will be mud streaked and road grimy. No one wants to steal that.
11-28-12, 11:40 AM
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Using parts at hardware stores I made a 10' long thin cable to attach bike to trees and picnic tables.
loops go over the other lock thru the frame and wheel.
loops go over the other lock thru the frame and wheel.
11-28-12, 02:09 PM
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We carry two 1.8meter medium weight cable locks just to make the thief work a bit for the bikes. At night we put the bikes next to the tent and I hook up a 120db purse alarm from the vastibule to a spoke with fishing line in case they try to carry off both bikes in the middle of the night. It's cheap and works great, I've woken up the camping a couple of mornings when I forgot about it
Nowdays thieves use lightweight and portable battery powered cutting tools to go through just about any hardened steel lock, chain or cable on the market.
Nowdays thieves use lightweight and portable battery powered cutting tools to go through just about any hardened steel lock, chain or cable on the market.
11-29-12, 06:54 AM
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In addition to the cheesy five dollar ultralight combination cable lock, I carry a velcro strap to lock down a brake lever. This makes a decent sort of kickstand, preventing the bike from rolling off your support, and will seriously slow down a thief on foot. I know because I've forgotten to take it off several times. Good idea above about black paint over everything. Some liberally applied scratches work, too. When I tour, people try to give me stuff, not take it away from me.
11-29-12, 02:45 PM
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On my bike trip to the midwest this summer I took a standard chain lock with me...I never used it once. Then again I never lock my bike up around home either. If they want to steal it they will steal no matter how well you have it locked up. Heck I've already had someone at the local Wal-Mart go through my daypack I had laying by my bike one day when I went into Wal-Mart. It had a laptop computer in the pack...it was still in the pack when I got back out to the bike. They went through everything and took nothing. They wanted the money I had with me in my pocket, not the stuff I had in my pack or on my bike...heck they didn't even want the bike.
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I use a Pitlock as mentioned as I have a SON 28 dynamo ... not keen on loosing my front wheel 
I also have on my Surly Long Haul Trucker a Abus Amparo 4850 CL Framelock. I find it very handy. I can quickly lock the bike outside a shop ... just makes it harder to walk off with it and in conjunction with a cable it becomes my overnight security system. Worked so far, but it is a bit heavy.
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I also have on my Surly Long Haul Trucker a Abus Amparo 4850 CL Framelock. I find it very handy. I can quickly lock the bike outside a shop ... just makes it harder to walk off with it and in conjunction with a cable it becomes my overnight security system. Worked so far, but it is a bit heavy.
Andrew
