Vintage houses for vintage bikes.
10-14-18, 05:25 AM
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Vintage houses for vintage bikes.
The reasons I recently moved to Toronto from Vancouver were threefold. Closer to family, better jobs, and the ability to trade in our condo for a proper house. House prices being what they are meant an older fixer upper.
Built in 1951, semi-structural brick, ungrounded electrical outlets, oil tank, "all original". We have a two year plan to redo windows, doors, kitchen, add a bathroom and redo the other two, refinish floors, natural gas, air conditioning and furnace, paint, etc. You name it and it seems to need doing.
Another big plus is that I will soon be able to set up a proper C&V bike shop that isn't our living room. Very excited to have a proper workbench, vice, buffing wheel, tool rack, and space to put my bikes and maybe even add to the collection. I am no longer constrained by how many bikes my storage locker and bike rack can hold.
Who else is in a C&V home?
Built in 1951, semi-structural brick, ungrounded electrical outlets, oil tank, "all original". We have a two year plan to redo windows, doors, kitchen, add a bathroom and redo the other two, refinish floors, natural gas, air conditioning and furnace, paint, etc. You name it and it seems to need doing.
Another big plus is that I will soon be able to set up a proper C&V bike shop that isn't our living room. Very excited to have a proper workbench, vice, buffing wheel, tool rack, and space to put my bikes and maybe even add to the collection. I am no longer constrained by how many bikes my storage locker and bike rack can hold.
Who else is in a C&V home?
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10-14-18, 05:29 AM
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Mine was built in 1920. The folks I bought it from left me a jade plant for good luck. It was in a pot designed as a tricycle. A few years ago, I did a little research and found out the original owner was a cyclist. Kinda freaky.
10-14-18, 06:14 AM
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Mine dates to 1851, back when bicycles were an abstract concept!
10-14-18, 06:25 AM
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otherwise wasn't just about EVERYBODY a commuter cyclist back then?
Motorcars weren't ubiquitous, you'd more ride a bike or horse.
Have played with motorcars from the 1920s... the Austin Seven we had could seat 4 but barely had enough horses to climb any hill - it was either make your passengers get out to walk alongside or turnaround and climb in reverse gear. Brakes were as weak as shaft pull rim blocks, so it was nailbiting once over the peak. Lights were as dull as Dynamo lights, because they were!!
By comparison the Morgan Super Sports ran like stink and could hit 100mph... JAP v-twin power transferred by chain drive to sprockets on rear wheel. Only room for 1 passenger... and no reverse gear, so passenger gets out to push trike backwards. Plus he's sidecar ballast too, should you decide to take a lefthand corner briskly.
The bike's more practical
10-14-18, 06:39 AM
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Mine almost works --
Bikes: 1959, 1960, 1970, 1981, 1988 Median = 1970; mean = 1972
House: 1975
Cars are newer than that: 1996 and model year 2001 made in late 2000
Bikes: 1959, 1960, 1970, 1981, 1988 Median = 1970; mean = 1972
House: 1975
Cars are newer than that: 1996 and model year 2001 made in late 2000
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Capo: 1959 Modell Campagnolo, S/N 40324; 1960 Sieger (2), S/N 42624, 42597
Carlton: 1962 Franco Suisse, S/N K7911
Peugeot: 1970 UO-8, S/N 0010468
Bianchi: 1982 Campione d'Italia, S/N 1.M9914
Schwinn: 1988 Project KOM-10, S/N F804069
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Capo: 1959 Modell Campagnolo, S/N 40324; 1960 Sieger (2), S/N 42624, 42597
Carlton: 1962 Franco Suisse, S/N K7911
Peugeot: 1970 UO-8, S/N 0010468
Bianchi: 1982 Campione d'Italia, S/N 1.M9914
Schwinn: 1988 Project KOM-10, S/N F804069
10-14-18, 07:29 AM
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My house is depression era, guess I’ll need to find a 1931 bike to match it. Our garage is more of a shed, I’m not certain that it was intended to house a car. We’ve lived here since ‘05 and we’ve replaced, repainted, retiled, and renewed just about every surface, so it has been a ton of work. But it feels very comfortable. I have friends who live in new construction, and I’m not sure I see much of an advantage to it, though there are aspects of modern floorplans that I like. For about five years now we’ve had the conversation: do we move to a larger, more modern house or do we remodel and add on to this one? And we’re beginning to imagine adding on to this one. We’d like to see it more fully perfected for how we’d like to live... another bedroom (our daughters share because we need a home office), a larger kitchen, and a few other things. The basement is perfect though. I put up walls about a ten years ago; it has a woodworking workshop and a second workshop for non-dusty things like bikes, sewing, painting, etc.
As I think about it, older homes are somewhat more conducive to a biking lifestyle because they tend to be concentrated closer to the cores of communities. On a bike I can get to my kids' school, the library, the grocery store, my business, the farmers market, dozens of restaurants, etc. all within about 2-10 minutes. This would be less true in the areas that have homes built in the past ten years.
As I think about it, older homes are somewhat more conducive to a biking lifestyle because they tend to be concentrated closer to the cores of communities. On a bike I can get to my kids' school, the library, the grocery store, my business, the farmers market, dozens of restaurants, etc. all within about 2-10 minutes. This would be less true in the areas that have homes built in the past ten years.
10-14-18, 08:40 AM
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Congrats on the move, Vancouver is a beautiful place and looks like you have a nice cozy home for the rainy days.
Our first home was a 1918 built row house that we bought from an old lady. It had sash type windows that were painted and caulked shut, layer upon layer of wallpaper, my guess in some places original to the house. I worked like a dog on that house and several houses later it is still my favorite. Foundation of that place was built like a fortress and never had a drop of water in the basement.
Our first home was a 1918 built row house that we bought from an old lady. It had sash type windows that were painted and caulked shut, layer upon layer of wallpaper, my guess in some places original to the house. I worked like a dog on that house and several houses later it is still my favorite. Foundation of that place was built like a fortress and never had a drop of water in the basement.
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10-14-18, 09:01 AM
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Well my apartment complex dates from the 1962 Seattle worlds fair...The only house I ever owned was a 1923 craftsman.
10-14-18, 09:46 AM
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I built our current home in 2008, so it's not vintage. But we did similar to you back in the 1960's when we sold our small home in Kirkland, WA, then bought a vintage home in West Seattle where we raised our family. It was "4 Square", 2 story, 5 bedroom. But only 1 bath. It had great living space for a family, but lacked closet space, modern wiring, or a modern kitchen. Built in 1903, it was one of the original homes in the area. Had been moved a mile or so in the 1920's to where we found it, which meant the detached garage was only large enough to hold a Model T. Wife hated a few things: The large kitchen area with sink and cupboards in an adjoining pantry. Laundry was in the basement which had an outside entrance and the single bath.
I remodeled it to a modern kitchen with island sink/dishwasher. Moved the laundry up to the old pantry kitchen and an electrician neighbor put in a new service for not too a lot of $$. I had neither time or $$ left to add a 2nd bathroom. But put in a 2nd sink there.
One corner of the basement had a large, homemade workbench. We were only the 3rd family to live there and I later met a son of 1st family. He shared a photo album from when house was young. His dad was a luthier, who built the bench. Had to leave the bench behind as it was glued & screwed together. To big to get out of the basement without disassembly which would have damaged it.
When I built our new home, I tried to incorporate lots of wood trim, hardwood floors and high ceilings to evoke some of flavor of that home. Don
I remodeled it to a modern kitchen with island sink/dishwasher. Moved the laundry up to the old pantry kitchen and an electrician neighbor put in a new service for not too a lot of $$. I had neither time or $$ left to add a 2nd bathroom. But put in a 2nd sink there.
One corner of the basement had a large, homemade workbench. We were only the 3rd family to live there and I later met a son of 1st family. He shared a photo album from when house was young. His dad was a luthier, who built the bench. Had to leave the bench behind as it was glued & screwed together. To big to get out of the basement without disassembly which would have damaged it.
When I built our new home, I tried to incorporate lots of wood trim, hardwood floors and high ceilings to evoke some of flavor of that home. Don
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Built in the nineteen-teens as a single family home for a faculty member at the University of Oregon.
It’s since been sliced up, and partitioned into eight separate studio apartments. Many changes have taken place over the past century due to renovations, and repairs losing most of its interior charm along the way. Still, it’s an oldie that stands out uniquely amidst its neighboring modern counterparts.
The landlord recently installed a bike cage on the frontline t porch. It’d be a nice solution to bikes taking up precious space in the tiny apartments. It’d also be a relief (in my case) from having to lug bikes up and down the switchback stairs. But it appears no one wants to pay the $25 key fee for a a cage that the neighborhood tweakers can easily bypass. It remains unused!
The Trek 510, my daily rider, often leans parked in the front hallway during the day if I’m going to be in and out...
Bringing the “new” Trek 520 home a few weeks ago...
It’s since been sliced up, and partitioned into eight separate studio apartments. Many changes have taken place over the past century due to renovations, and repairs losing most of its interior charm along the way. Still, it’s an oldie that stands out uniquely amidst its neighboring modern counterparts.
The landlord recently installed a bike cage on the frontline t porch. It’d be a nice solution to bikes taking up precious space in the tiny apartments. It’d also be a relief (in my case) from having to lug bikes up and down the switchback stairs. But it appears no one wants to pay the $25 key fee for a a cage that the neighborhood tweakers can easily bypass. It remains unused!
The Trek 510, my daily rider, often leans parked in the front hallway during the day if I’m going to be in and out...
Bringing the “new” Trek 520 home a few weeks ago...
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10-14-18, 10:27 AM
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1919 house I bought last winter. Garage is now full of bikes and tools. I am very happy but we have a bit of work to do.
Painting has started.
Share drive.
Painting has started.
Share drive.
10-14-18, 10:41 AM
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Deed says 1900 for my house, it survived a 1922 fire that leveled downtown ,
simply by being 8 blocks away, I assume..
It's down there, not far from those condos out over the river.
simply by being 8 blocks away, I assume..
It's down there, not far from those condos out over the river.
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Congrats on the move, looks like a nice old house.
My current house is circa 1947. Just finished the remodel, painted completely outside and in, all new lighting, new gutters and downspouts, pulled a rear garage window and replaced it with a door so we could access the backyard from the garage, complete gut on the kitchen - new tile floor, cabinets, counters, countertop bar seating, 5 electric outlets, under-cabinet lighting, and opened up a wall into the dining room, 8-foot built-in living room wall-cabinet/bookcase, stripped floors and revarnished, mostly new bath. Next up is a 10ft x 50ft concrete driveway, to replace a compacted limestone/crushed asphalt mess, which I'll do myself, and then I'll be done.
My last home was a true C&V-er, 1913 foursquare two story brick, 3 fireplaces. Bought from the original owner, who'd let it go into a 5-year-vacant disrepair. It only needed a new roof, all new plumbing, all new electric, all new kitchen, all new baths, and about half of the plaster. The entire downstairs trim, built-in china cabinet, built-in living room cabinets, butler pantry cabinets, hinged and sliding pocket doors, and flooring, were all solid red oak. When I bought it, it had one electric outlet in the living room, and one in the kitchen. If she needed something plugged in, in another room, she screwed an outlet tap into the overhead light socket and ran an extension cord over to a wall and then down. It cost $8300 to build in 1913.
My current house is circa 1947. Just finished the remodel, painted completely outside and in, all new lighting, new gutters and downspouts, pulled a rear garage window and replaced it with a door so we could access the backyard from the garage, complete gut on the kitchen - new tile floor, cabinets, counters, countertop bar seating, 5 electric outlets, under-cabinet lighting, and opened up a wall into the dining room, 8-foot built-in living room wall-cabinet/bookcase, stripped floors and revarnished, mostly new bath. Next up is a 10ft x 50ft concrete driveway, to replace a compacted limestone/crushed asphalt mess, which I'll do myself, and then I'll be done.
My last home was a true C&V-er, 1913 foursquare two story brick, 3 fireplaces. Bought from the original owner, who'd let it go into a 5-year-vacant disrepair. It only needed a new roof, all new plumbing, all new electric, all new kitchen, all new baths, and about half of the plaster. The entire downstairs trim, built-in china cabinet, built-in living room cabinets, butler pantry cabinets, hinged and sliding pocket doors, and flooring, were all solid red oak. When I bought it, it had one electric outlet in the living room, and one in the kitchen. If she needed something plugged in, in another room, she screwed an outlet tap into the overhead light socket and ran an extension cord over to a wall and then down. It cost $8300 to build in 1913.
10-14-18, 01:59 PM
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1854 Colonial - downtown Ann Arbor
Circa 1907 American Revival - Adirondacks
1923 Arts & Crafts North of Canada - my current project
[IMG]https://dl.dropbox.com/s/1k30qhlkg6kp33k/1150-3.JPG?dl=0[/IMG]
1960's Airstream Safari - owned but never camped in it.
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Not shown include my first house, a post WWII cape cod in Ann Arbor, and my current two-family.
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1854 Colonial - downtown Ann Arbor
Circa 1907 American Revival - Adirondacks
1923 Arts & Crafts North of Canada - my current project
[IMG]https://dl.dropbox.com/s/1k30qhlkg6kp33k/1150-3.JPG?dl=0[/IMG]
1960's Airstream Safari - owned but never camped in it.
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Not shown include my first house, a post WWII cape cod in Ann Arbor, and my current two-family.
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Congrats on the move, Vancouver is a beautiful place and looks like you have a nice cozy home for the rainy days.
Our first home was a 1918 built row house that we bought from an old lady. It had sash type windows that were painted and caulked shut, layer upon layer of wallpaper, my guess in some places original to the house. I worked like a dog on that house and several houses later it is still my favorite. Foundation of that place was built like a fortress and never had a drop of water in the basement.
Our first home was a 1918 built row house that we bought from an old lady. It had sash type windows that were painted and caulked shut, layer upon layer of wallpaper, my guess in some places original to the house. I worked like a dog on that house and several houses later it is still my favorite. Foundation of that place was built like a fortress and never had a drop of water in the basement.
10-14-18, 03:53 PM
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Late 1960s for the pushbutton avocado range. Nice Find! I once had a copper tone pushbutton range.
Appliance colors tell kitchen history - StarTribune.com
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10-14-18, 07:31 PM
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I'm confused by the premise of this thread; houses can't be vintage. They don't age. Maybe I'm missing some cultural context, is it normal in Canada to only buy a freshly built house or something?
This makes me think of how old the houses I've lived in are, it wasn't important at the time. All surely around 130 years old or more, but that describes probably half the houses in Britain. Two-up-two-down terraces with a variety of badly thought out 1950s-1980s extensions to bring such luxuries as indoor toilets and a real kitchen, which gives the dirty and flytipped back alleyway a sort of low rise kowloon walled city look. Cramped and badly lit with steep staircases, tiny bedrooms and no sound insulation whatsoever. More often than not, no garden.
Now a council house, that's what you want. Lifelong tenancy that your children can inherit and carte blanche to make whatever improvements you feel like. For what you pay in rent you get a place three times as big than you would on a mortgage payment on one of the turds I described above, and the council has to upgrade all your heating for you for free.
This makes me think of how old the houses I've lived in are, it wasn't important at the time. All surely around 130 years old or more, but that describes probably half the houses in Britain. Two-up-two-down terraces with a variety of badly thought out 1950s-1980s extensions to bring such luxuries as indoor toilets and a real kitchen, which gives the dirty and flytipped back alleyway a sort of low rise kowloon walled city look. Cramped and badly lit with steep staircases, tiny bedrooms and no sound insulation whatsoever. More often than not, no garden.
Now a council house, that's what you want. Lifelong tenancy that your children can inherit and carte blanche to make whatever improvements you feel like. For what you pay in rent you get a place three times as big than you would on a mortgage payment on one of the turds I described above, and the council has to upgrade all your heating for you for free.
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My house was built in 1874
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I'm confused by the premise of this thread; houses can't be vintage. They don't age. Maybe I'm missing some cultural context, is it normal in Canada to only buy a freshly built house or something?
This makes me think of how old the houses I've lived in are, it wasn't important at the time. All surely around 130 years old or more, but that describes probably half the houses in Britain.
This makes me think of how old the houses I've lived in are, it wasn't important at the time. All surely around 130 years old or more, but that describes probably half the houses in Britain.
10-14-18, 07:50 PM
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On the opposite end in Britain we have the "Luxury Apartment", which is where local developers create a perfect replica of a soviet two-room flat but charge you 50% of your income to live there rather than Khrushchev's customary 3%. You can sit on the two seat couch in front of the TV, reach behind you without standing up, and load the washing machine.
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10-14-18, 08:27 PM
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1855, 1 1/2 story Gothic Revival. Was a Bapist rectory, very austere, no adornments, . Coach House and Bike shed as well.
10-14-18, 09:01 PM
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I don't do images, but my home was built in 1947 owned it for 25 years.
While allegedly every house in the city is custom, the original plan set was sold as a "ready to build" design from an architect promoting "Distinctive Small Homes"
1,200 sq ft. plus a 540 sq ft garage. Complicated roof plan as the house is a essentially a U shape in plan view and no leg is the same width, hip roof throughout.
Paid dearly to reroof, but should be good for another 50-60 years.
While allegedly every house in the city is custom, the original plan set was sold as a "ready to build" design from an architect promoting "Distinctive Small Homes"
1,200 sq ft. plus a 540 sq ft garage. Complicated roof plan as the house is a essentially a U shape in plan view and no leg is the same width, hip roof throughout.
Paid dearly to reroof, but should be good for another 50-60 years.