Anyone else prefer even-toothed cogs?
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Anyone else prefer even-toothed cogs?
Especially in the cruising range?
The freewheel I'm riding now has 16-18-20, and I'm thinking that I like that way better than the 15-17-19-21 that I always had before. The even-numbered gears make my legs happy, and I don't miss the 21.
This is as between a 14-16-18-20-23-26 and a 13-15-17-19-21-23-26, but I wonder if it generalizes?
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The freewheel I'm riding now has 16-18-20, and I'm thinking that I like that way better than the 15-17-19-21 that I always had before. The even-numbered gears make my legs happy, and I don't miss the 21.
This is as between a 14-16-18-20-23-26 and a 13-15-17-19-21-23-26, but I wonder if it generalizes?
--Shannon
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Sort of. I prefer prime-numbered cogs, and they are all odd.
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Especially in the cruising range?
The freewheel I'm riding now has 16-18-20, and I'm thinking that I like that way better than the 15-17-19-21 that I always had before. The even-numbered gears make my legs happy, and I don't miss the 21.
This is as between a 14-16-18-20-23-26 and a 13-15-17-19-21-23-26, but I wonder if it generalizes?
--Shannon
The freewheel I'm riding now has 16-18-20, and I'm thinking that I like that way better than the 15-17-19-21 that I always had before. The even-numbered gears make my legs happy, and I don't miss the 21.
This is as between a 14-16-18-20-23-26 and a 13-15-17-19-21-23-26, but I wonder if it generalizes?
--Shannon
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The only place where it might make a difference is on a fixed gear bike, where, as @Kapusta notes, prime numbers are preferred to maximize the number of skid patches to prolong tire life.
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Like so many ideas, I would bet that if you were given two bikes, and the sprockets and gears were covered up you couldnt tell the difference.
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Missing odd or even cogs in the 13-19 range yield more shifting with gears that are't quite right.
I put a few thousand miles on a 14-15-16-17-18-19-20-21-22-23 straight block. While the 20 was noticeable, it wasn't better than having another on either end or not having an extra cog to skip over when changing rings. The 22 was superfluous.
Your mileage will vary.
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I remember reading an essay (in Buycycling?) 15-20 years ago that waxed poetic about a 16 tooth cog. I haven't come up with a reason to move that out of the "senseless fixation" mental file. (Put on a 17 tooth instead, crank it up to the same cadence, and you'll go 6% faster!)
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The only place where it might make a difference is on a fixed gear bike, where, as @Kapusta notes, prime numbers are preferred to maximize the number of skid patches to prolong tire life.
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I remember reading an essay (in Buycycling?) 15-20 years ago that waxed poetic about a 16 tooth cog. I haven't come up with a reason to move that out of the "senseless fixation" mental file. (Put on a 17 tooth instead, crank it up to the same cadence, and you'll go 6% faster!)
Switching to a 15 is what you are thinking of as a faster gear.
For example, I used to ride 42/17 SS and it was too slow (66.7 gear inches) for cruising, so these days I’m running 42/16 (70.9 gear inches).
I have nothing against odd numbers, but I suspect 42/15 (75.6 gear inches) would be a bit too much up the hills, at least at present.
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If even tooth is better, then I’ve hit the mother load.
Went from 13-15-17... to 14-16-18-20-24-28-34 with 30-38-48 chainrings.
My only concern is the crank is a triple.
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Went from 13-15-17... to 14-16-18-20-24-28-34 with 30-38-48 chainrings.
My only concern is the crank is a triple.
John
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Probably depends on your chainrings. This gear calculator gives a visual guide to how minor changes in chainrings and cogs can affect the perceived steps across the gear range.
I'm picky about gear steps so when I plan to tackle a long ride with more climbing on my old school 7-speed bike I may swap small chainrings from 42 to 39 or 38. But I have to coordinate it with with freewheel or cassette as well, because the gear steps are very different between my usual 13-28 freewheel, and my other rear wheel with freehub and 12-28 cassette. The problem usually isn't the smaller cogs, which tend to be closely spaced, but the bigger cogs for climbing. A 24 to 28 cog jump can be really awkward and there are a couple of Shimano freewheels and cassettes I won't use anymore because of the awkward steps. I prefer the steps of some SunRace freewheels, and SunRace and MicroShift cassettes. Probably wouldn't matter so much if I upgraded to 10 speed but I still use old school stuff on my old steel bike.
Also I can't use any freewheel or cassette that has a 14T smallest cog on my '89 Ironman. It'll cause the chain to rub the drive side chainstay. The smallest cog needs to be 13 teeth or fewer. Just a quirk of that bike design, which was designed for 1980s era triathlon time trials. I suppose they figured anyone who needed a 14T smallest cog should be riding a different bike.
I'm picky about gear steps so when I plan to tackle a long ride with more climbing on my old school 7-speed bike I may swap small chainrings from 42 to 39 or 38. But I have to coordinate it with with freewheel or cassette as well, because the gear steps are very different between my usual 13-28 freewheel, and my other rear wheel with freehub and 12-28 cassette. The problem usually isn't the smaller cogs, which tend to be closely spaced, but the bigger cogs for climbing. A 24 to 28 cog jump can be really awkward and there are a couple of Shimano freewheels and cassettes I won't use anymore because of the awkward steps. I prefer the steps of some SunRace freewheels, and SunRace and MicroShift cassettes. Probably wouldn't matter so much if I upgraded to 10 speed but I still use old school stuff on my old steel bike.
Also I can't use any freewheel or cassette that has a 14T smallest cog on my '89 Ironman. It'll cause the chain to rub the drive side chainstay. The smallest cog needs to be 13 teeth or fewer. Just a quirk of that bike design, which was designed for 1980s era triathlon time trials. I suppose they figured anyone who needed a 14T smallest cog should be riding a different bike.
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I can't count them once the pedals start turning, so I have no idea.
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Yes, a prime number chainring will always result in skid patches equal to the number of teeth on the rear sprocket. But it seems many modern cranks only offer even number tooth count rings.
N.B. I have several vintage 144mm BCD 47 tooth rings in my stash…
N.B. I have several vintage 144mm BCD 47 tooth rings in my stash…
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If I had to choose a single all around gear for flat terrain, it would be 42/16.
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I'm not sure why having an even number of teeth as opposed to an odd number would matter. I understand that more teeth is generally easier. But having a cog with 11-13-15-17-etc. shouldn't really be different than a cog with 10-12-14-16- etc. except where the last gears on the ends will have one extra/less tooth and that could make a slight difference I supposed.