Negotiation:how much is too much?
10-25-20, 09:58 AM
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BTW, if you must have BSA, you aren't going to get that from Canyon
10-25-20, 10:28 AM
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I'm glad that more people are riding bikes, and more people are coming to bf. But lately, there really is an abundance of new members asking questions like "Is this bike going to fit me?", or "Is this bike a good deal?", or "How can I get a better deal on this bike?" And then so many of these new posters, who have asked for advice, don't like the advice and argue with it. Or we eventually find out that the question is moot, because the person already bought the bike.
It's tiresome.
It's tiresome.
10-25-20, 10:48 AM
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Your question was why should you buy anything from a local bike shop when the internet is cheaper? You just answered it. Clearly you need help from a bike shop for service. I guess you can ship your bike somewhere to get it worked on and then you won’t need a local bike shop.
10-25-20, 11:17 AM
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I'm glad that more people are riding bikes, and more people are coming to bf. But lately, there really is an abundance of new members asking questions like "Is this bike going to fit me?", or "Is this bike a good deal?", or "How can I get a better deal on this bike?" And then so many of these new posters, who have asked for advice, don't like the advice and argue with it. Or we eventually find out that the question is moot, because the person already bought the bike.
It's tiresome.
It's tiresome.
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10-25-20, 12:14 PM
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Seems the OP had already decided what he planned to offer before he posted here.
Not sure why he posted here.
Offer what you like. Not sure why any reasonable businessman would be overly offended by a lowball offer .... he would just say "No."
if i were buying a bike off an online classified ad site, I would be a little more concerned about annoying the person, because that person would more likely be personally invested in the bike ---after all, it was his or her personal bike, and maybe the two had shared many happy miles. A professional businessperson i would think, would be more likely to take it in stride. But ... try it and see? Everyone is an individual. maybe the shop owner will do the sale, maybe he will laugh, maybe he will shoot you. Only one way to find out.
As I mentioned above ... i would decide the max I was willing to pay, and go there with cash. I would make an offer a little lower than I was willing to pay, and do the sale if it was accepted. if not i would show the cash, say, "This is X0000 Euros (pounds, yen, drachmas, whatever) and it is all I have. Can you see your way to letting me have the bike for this?
If the guy says "No," then buy the Canyon or the Giant. Or ride your perfectly good two-year-old Tarmac.
Not sure why he posted here.
Offer what you like. Not sure why any reasonable businessman would be overly offended by a lowball offer .... he would just say "No."
if i were buying a bike off an online classified ad site, I would be a little more concerned about annoying the person, because that person would more likely be personally invested in the bike ---after all, it was his or her personal bike, and maybe the two had shared many happy miles. A professional businessperson i would think, would be more likely to take it in stride. But ... try it and see? Everyone is an individual. maybe the shop owner will do the sale, maybe he will laugh, maybe he will shoot you. Only one way to find out.
As I mentioned above ... i would decide the max I was willing to pay, and go there with cash. I would make an offer a little lower than I was willing to pay, and do the sale if it was accepted. if not i would show the cash, say, "This is X0000 Euros (pounds, yen, drachmas, whatever) and it is all I have. Can you see your way to letting me have the bike for this?
If the guy says "No," then buy the Canyon or the Giant. Or ride your perfectly good two-year-old Tarmac.
10-25-20, 12:16 PM
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Seems the OP had already decided what he planned to offer before he posted here.
Not sure why he posted here.
Offer what you like. Not sure why any reasonable businessman would be overly offended by a lowball offer .... he would just say "No."
if i were buying a bike off an online classified ad site, I would be a little more concerned about annoying the person, because that person would more likely be personally invested in the bike ---after all, it was his or her personal bike, and maybe the two had shared many happy miles. A professional businessperson i would think, would be more likely to take it in stride. But ... try it and see? Everyone is an individual. maybe the shop owner will do the sale, maybe he will laugh, maybe he will shoot you. Only one way to find out.
As I mentioned above ... i would decide the max I was willing to pay, and go there with cash. I would make an offer a little lower than I was willing to pay, and do the sale if it was accepted. if not i would show the cash, say, "This is X0000 Euros (pounds, yen, drachmas, whatever) and it is all I have. Can you see your way to letting me have the bike for this?
If the guy says "No," then buy the Canyon or the Giant. Or ride your perfectly good two-year-old Tarmac.
Not sure why he posted here.
Offer what you like. Not sure why any reasonable businessman would be overly offended by a lowball offer .... he would just say "No."
if i were buying a bike off an online classified ad site, I would be a little more concerned about annoying the person, because that person would more likely be personally invested in the bike ---after all, it was his or her personal bike, and maybe the two had shared many happy miles. A professional businessperson i would think, would be more likely to take it in stride. But ... try it and see? Everyone is an individual. maybe the shop owner will do the sale, maybe he will laugh, maybe he will shoot you. Only one way to find out.
As I mentioned above ... i would decide the max I was willing to pay, and go there with cash. I would make an offer a little lower than I was willing to pay, and do the sale if it was accepted. if not i would show the cash, say, "This is X0000 Euros (pounds, yen, drachmas, whatever) and it is all I have. Can you see your way to letting me have the bike for this?
If the guy says "No," then buy the Canyon or the Giant. Or ride your perfectly good two-year-old Tarmac.
10-25-20, 12:19 PM
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After seeing post #55 , it's obvious you shouldn't go for the Canyon or another online choice. What other bikes are you able to get locally that are comparable to the Emonda? If you make a comparison of only those bikes that are actually available to you it will be easier to decide if the price suits you.
10-25-20, 12:26 PM
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10-25-20, 12:37 PM
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After following this thread for a while makes me glad I am not in retail. You seem like the perfect customer for on line, send Canyon a email offering 20% off the published price and let us know how it goes.
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10-25-20, 12:43 PM
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10-25-20, 12:47 PM
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the thing is, it already costs 2700 euros and comes with Ultegra. See Trek, that’s competitive pricing.
10-25-20, 12:56 PM
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Why settle for Ultegra? You should ask for Dura Ace for the price of Ultegra. As far as Trek goes I am sure you are not in their target demographic and since they are selling all the bikes they make without turning their stores into a Marrakesh Market everyone is happy.
10-25-20, 12:59 PM
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10-25-20, 01:13 PM
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I could do that, thanks for the idea
10-25-20, 01:29 PM
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