Giro Shoes - WARNING!!!!
#51
Senior Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 106
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 42 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 3 Times
in
2 Posts
If you have instruction you might be able to save a few people who check out the thread!
#52
Senior Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 106
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 42 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 3 Times
in
2 Posts
Do you have access to the Giro shoe closure system? If he replaces the buckle he's going to run into the same issue again - the ratchet section of the strap allows tightening past release point. He could replace the rivet with a screw as suggested but that's not a good fix.
He needs a replacement strap, the strap design changed at some point to decrease the length of the ratchet section by ~1/4". You can see it here comparing this set of shoes from mid 2015 production to the same style but 2016 production. I suspect they used the same ratchet section distance as the prior version of the interface - oversight during design refresh is a common issue but should have been addressed properly.
@sooni - do you have a year printed on the sole under the insole?
He needs a replacement strap, the strap design changed at some point to decrease the length of the ratchet section by ~1/4". You can see it here comparing this set of shoes from mid 2015 production to the same style but 2016 production. I suspect they used the same ratchet section distance as the prior version of the interface - oversight during design refresh is a common issue but should have been addressed properly.
@sooni - do you have a year printed on the sole under the insole?
Cannot replace the strap or buckle now that it is cut. It is part of the last as a whole.
Last edited by sooni; 04-15-19 at 04:53 PM.
#53
Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 3,063
Mentioned: 63 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1216 Post(s)
Liked 185 Times
in
116 Posts
Interesting, mine are from Feb 2016 so the changeover happened pretty quick it appears. When they updated the straps and buckle from N-1 to N-2 they kept the un-ratcheted section length of the N-1 strap without accounting for the geometry change of the N-2 strap design/N-2 buckle interface. At some point they became aware of the issue, had a rolling production change and didn't tell anyone. Pretty poor form.
I meant strap as this part: https://www.performancebike.com/giro...062916/p384829
You might be able to wiggle an exacto knife in there and cut off the head, if melting doesn't strike you as a good idea. That would free up the rest of the strap to open and then the remainder of the ratchet strap to slide out the buckle. As for the other shoe, I'd sew and glue the leather part back together. But as I said, I'll go pretty far to get my money's worth when a company refuses to help me out. This is an annoying issue and Giro didn't treat you right IMO.
I meant strap as this part: https://www.performancebike.com/giro...062916/p384829
You might be able to wiggle an exacto knife in there and cut off the head, if melting doesn't strike you as a good idea. That would free up the rest of the strap to open and then the remainder of the ratchet strap to slide out the buckle. As for the other shoe, I'd sew and glue the leather part back together. But as I said, I'll go pretty far to get my money's worth when a company refuses to help me out. This is an annoying issue and Giro didn't treat you right IMO.
#54
Senior Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 106
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 42 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 3 Times
in
2 Posts
Interesting, mine are from Feb 2016 so the changeover happened pretty quick it appears. When they updated the straps and buckle from N-1 to N-2 they kept the un-ratcheted section length of the N-1 strap without accounting for the geometry change of the N-2 strap design/N-2 buckle interface. At some point they became aware of the issue, had a rolling production change and didn't tell anyone. Pretty poor form.
I meant strap as this part: https://www.performancebike.com/giro...062916/p384829
You might be able to wiggle an exacto knife in there and cut off the head, if melting doesn't strike you as a good idea. That would free up the rest of the strap to open and then the remainder of the ratchet strap to slide out the buckle. As for the other shoe, I'd sew and glue the leather part back together. But as I said, I'll go pretty far to get my money's worth when a company refuses to help me out. This is an annoying issue and Giro didn't treat you right IMO.
I meant strap as this part: https://www.performancebike.com/giro...062916/p384829
You might be able to wiggle an exacto knife in there and cut off the head, if melting doesn't strike you as a good idea. That would free up the rest of the strap to open and then the remainder of the ratchet strap to slide out the buckle. As for the other shoe, I'd sew and glue the leather part back together. But as I said, I'll go pretty far to get my money's worth when a company refuses to help me out. This is an annoying issue and Giro didn't treat you right IMO.
#56
just another gosling
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Everett, WA
Posts: 19,531
Bikes: CoMo Speedster 2003, Trek 5200, CAAD 9, Fred 2004
Mentioned: 115 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3886 Post(s)
Liked 1,938 Times
in
1,383 Posts
After an event ride, I once has a rider approach me with a cut-off SIDI strap and a detached buckle, asking me to please show her how to release it. I was horrified for an instant, but no problem on Sidis with the replaceable strap and buckle. I've been through a number of each of those. The buckles don't like it when you low-side and they've made a series of various strap/buckle combinations which don't play well with previous versions. Upgraded buckles, yeeesh. About 50K miles on my first pair before they were stolen, still in excellent condition, lots of rain rides in them too..
Back to your discussion, sorry.
Back to your discussion, sorry.
__________________
Results matter
Results matter
#57
cowboy, steel horse, etc
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: The hot spot.
Posts: 44,836
Bikes: everywhere
Mentioned: 71 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quoted: 12768 Post(s)
Liked 7,682 Times
in
4,077 Posts
Luckily my Giros had BOA, so never had the OP's problem.
OK,now back to your discussion. Sorry not sorry.
#58
cowboy, steel horse, etc
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: The hot spot.
Posts: 44,836
Bikes: everywhere
Mentioned: 71 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quoted: 12768 Post(s)
Liked 7,682 Times
in
4,077 Posts
Always exhaust least destructive options in a non-emergency situation.
#59
FLIR Kitten to 0.05C
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Lincoln, Nebraska
Posts: 5,331
Bikes: Roadie: Seven Axiom Race Ti w/Chorus 11s. CX/Adventure: Carver Gravel Grinder w/ Di2
Mentioned: 30 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2349 Post(s)
Liked 406 Times
in
254 Posts
once in circuit training class, a guy got stuck on a stationary bike cuz his shoelace wrapped around the pedal spindle. The instructor was headed over with some scissors so I yelled WAIT!!! Held onto his shoe so he could pull his foot out then unwrapped his shoe.
Always exhaust least destructive options in a non-emergency situation.
Always exhaust least destructive options in a non-emergency situation.
#61
Senior Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 106
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 42 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 3 Times
in
2 Posts
#64
vespertine member
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Land of Angora, Turkey
Posts: 2,476
Bikes: Yes
Mentioned: 22 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 687 Post(s)
Liked 220 Times
in
163 Posts
Good warning. I'm about to upgrade shoes, and think I'll avoid any Giro shoes with buckles here in skinny foot and ankle land. I do not own a dremel.
#66
wears long socks
I wear Empire SLX shoes that have laces.
They are ridiculously light and very comfortable.
I honestly cannot see the need for any of these ratcheting/boa/Velcro gizmos.
Is it purely because cyclists love techy stuff?
They are ridiculously light and very comfortable.
I honestly cannot see the need for any of these ratcheting/boa/Velcro gizmos.
Is it purely because cyclists love techy stuff?
#69
cowboy, steel horse, etc
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: The hot spot.
Posts: 44,836
Bikes: everywhere
Mentioned: 71 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quoted: 12768 Post(s)
Liked 7,682 Times
in
4,077 Posts
I am such a lazy bastard the pair of lace up MTB shoes I have stay tied loose and I pull em on and off
#72
Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2014
Location: Eugene, Oregon, USA
Posts: 27,547
Mentioned: 217 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 18373 Post(s)
Liked 4,508 Times
in
3,351 Posts
#75
Senior Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 106
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 42 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 3 Times
in
2 Posts
Shoes that worked for me widest to narrow Shimano, Giro, Sidi. Fizik was too narrow. Spillover on the carbon sole both infinito and r5.
Last edited by sooni; 04-19-19 at 09:08 AM.