How tight do you tighten down your rear wheels quick release?
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How tight do you tighten down your rear wheels quick release?
I've noticed twice during the past month I've had to realign my Sequoia's rear wheel when it starting rubbing against the rear dropout. I thought I had tightened it pretty good.
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Make sure that the full circumference of the quick release ends are grabbing the dropout. I once was too focused on centering the rear derailleurs upper pulley below the freewheel and ended up with only 75% of the quick release exerting pressure on the dropouts.
I've read that, as a general rule, that it should tight enough that you begin to feel resistance about halfway through the lever's throw. It's a good rule of thumb.
I've read that, as a general rule, that it should tight enough that you begin to feel resistance about halfway through the lever's throw. It's a good rule of thumb.
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As mentioned by oneclick the axle lock nut or the quick release should have some sort of tooth to grab the dropout otherwise, unless you are a gorilla, you won't be able to get the Q.R. tight enough to work with horizontal dropouts. I finally had to use a different Q.R. on my rear Weyless wheel for this reason.
Also internal-cam Q.R.s tend to grip better than the external cam type. The external cam skewers were introduced about the same time as vertical dropouts, which don't allow the axle to slide forward, became the norm.
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Also internal-cam Q.R.s tend to grip better than the external cam type. The external cam skewers were introduced about the same time as vertical dropouts, which don't allow the axle to slide forward, became the norm.
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How could it do it twice? Could be coincidence.
Remove the wheel and have a look.
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OP you aren't trying to use external cam QR are you? My advice is don't. It can work, if you use high quality QR and put them on pretty much as tightly as your hands can handle, but it isn't IMO worth the hassle. Stick with internal cam.
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Open cam type quick release? Replace it with an enclosed cam quick release.
https://www.sheldonbrown.com/skewers.html
https://www.sheldonbrown.com/skewers.html
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I'm in with the "should start tightening noticeably when the lever is about halfway into its loose-tight travel" camp; but I also use the QR as the final step in adjusting wheel bearings: slowly turning the wheel, if the basic adjustment is "correct enough" I'll find a few places where there's barely perceptible lateral play in the wheel bearings before the QR is tightened; and I incrementally tighten the QR adjustment so that when fully closed, that play has just disappeared. Maybe that's wrong, but that's what I do.
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On my commuter/hauler, which seemed to have a tendency to slip under heavy loads (e.g., with my two-wheel trailer attached), I went with DT Swiss.
Alternatively, get a bike with vertical dropouts. Problem solved.
Alternatively, get a bike with vertical dropouts. Problem solved.
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On a bike with a vertical dropout? Eh, not all that tight. :shrug:
On a bike with a horizontal dropout? Actually, pretty darn tight.
On my Merckx with the really hard, thick slippery chrome horizontal dropouts? I make it so freaking tight I'm afraid I'm going to break the QR. Because that's what it takes to keep the thing from slipping.
On a bike with a horizontal dropout? Actually, pretty darn tight.
On my Merckx with the really hard, thick slippery chrome horizontal dropouts? I make it so freaking tight I'm afraid I'm going to break the QR. Because that's what it takes to keep the thing from slipping.
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I don't think anyone has mentioned it, but - in addition to everything already stated - measure the amount of axle protruding from the locknuts of your hub. Compare this measurement with the thickness of your dropouts. If the axle protrusion is thicker than the dropout, your Q/R cam and/or locknut may be bottoming out slightly when tightened - enough so that you might think your Q/R is tight against the frame when it is actually a lot tighter against the axle. Not every combination will do this (and most QRs have a recess in the design to account for the possibility), but it's worth checking.
Even though this isn't common, it's worth checking to eliminate from the list of possibilities.
-Kurt
Even though this isn't common, it's worth checking to eliminate from the list of possibilities.
-Kurt
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... I also use the QR as the final step in adjusting wheel bearings: slowly turning the wheel, if the basic adjustment is "correct enough" I'll find a few places where there's barely perceptible lateral play in the wheel bearings before the QR is tightened; and I incrementally tighten the QR adjustment so that when fully closed, that play has just disappeared. Maybe that's wrong, but that's what I do.
I do this too. Whether it's right or wrong, I like that it confirms perfect adjustment.
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It should be fine just tight if everything is strait and tight. Things to check hub tension does the wheel wiggle side to side when jiggle side two side abou 1- 2mm it's out of adjustment needs greased with new bearings adjusted.
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Just get a good Shimano skewer and no more worries!
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When it makes a dent in my palm, it’s tight enough. Same for the front, Never any issues with movement.
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I don't think anyone has mentioned it, but - in addition to everything already stated - measure the amount of axle protruding from the locknuts of your hub. Compare this measurement with the thickness of your dropouts. If the axle protrusion is thicker than the dropout, your Q/R cam and/or locknut may be bottoming out slightly when tightened - enough so that you might think your Q/R is tight against the frame when it is actually a lot tighter against the axle. Not every combination will do this (and most QRs have a recess in the design to account for the possibility), but it's worth checking.
Even though this isn't common, it's worth checking to eliminate from the list of possibilities.
-Kurt
Even though this isn't common, it's worth checking to eliminate from the list of possibilities.
-Kurt
And if you have an axle with a slot, put it in with the slot on the bottom, the axle bends upward (when it bends) and you put the reduced section and extra stress risers away from the tension that way.
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I don't think anyone has mentioned it, but - in addition to everything already stated - measure the amount of axle protruding from the locknuts of your hub. Compare this measurement with the thickness of your dropouts. If the axle protrusion is thicker than the dropout, your Q/R cam and/or locknut may be bottoming out slightly when tightened - enough so that you might think your Q/R is tight against the frame when it is actually a lot tighter against the axle. Not every combination will do this (and most QRs have a recess in the design to account for the possibility), but it's worth checking.
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Make sure your skewer springs are installed correctly or in the correct direction.
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I ONLY use closed cam quick-releases on my wheels. I put enough pressure on the lever so that it leaves an imprint on my palm. I've see people tighten their quick-release so much that it required putting something like a closed end of a box-end wrench over the lever to pry the quick-release open again. LOL
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I ONLY use closed cam quick-releases on my wheels. I put enough pressure on the lever so that it leaves an imprint on my palm. I've see people tighten their quick-release so much that it required putting something like a closed end of a box-end wrench over the lever to pry the quick-release open again. LOL
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