Is it safe to glue a BB shell?
07-22-20, 08:26 AM
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Is it safe to glue a BB shell?
I have a 2009 Giant TCR advanced and the BB shell came out. The store filed a warranty claim with Giant but it was denied and Giant recommended that it could be repaired. The mechanic glued the BB shell and it's been fine for a few months now but I'm wondering if this is a long term solution or should I be concerned. I'm planning on replacing the bike soon anyway but I'm waiting to see what next gen Ultegra will bring.
07-22-20, 09:54 AM
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Well, it is essentially, if not actually, glued in at the factory....
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07-22-20, 10:52 AM
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According to my experience, glue is not a permanent solution so you replace it as soon as possible
07-22-20, 11:25 AM
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yes there are gap filling loctite products... just saying 'Green' is a bit vague .. obviously not a Mechanic..
https://www.loctiteproducts.com/en/p...e/go2_gel.html
https://www.loctiteproducts.com/en/p...e/go2_gel.html
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My one piece BB is held in with "Loctite 641 Retaining Compound"
It's not a bodge, that recommendation is straight from the BB manufacturer as part of a regular installation.
Barry
It's not a bodge, that recommendation is straight from the BB manufacturer as part of a regular installation.
Barry
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Thanks all. Yes I know that the shell is glued at the factory but after years of use it came off; the question is if somehow this implies that the frame has been compromised.
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The wings of airplanes are glued together. Why not a bb cup in a bb shell?
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If the BB shell has no obvious damage and the insert has remained in place since the glue job, there should be no concern
about the frame integrity. If the shell comes loose again then a good clean up and use of a recommended glue to
replace it is not out of order. Realistically a 2009 frame has a pretty low $ value for the majority of potential buyers but it
has zero value absent a usable BB. Probably not a good idea to do 1200 watt sprints or maybe even 800 watt sprints
but other than that just ride the bike til you decide what to do. Next gen Ultegra probably 2 yrs away at least.
about the frame integrity. If the shell comes loose again then a good clean up and use of a recommended glue to
replace it is not out of order. Realistically a 2009 frame has a pretty low $ value for the majority of potential buyers but it
has zero value absent a usable BB. Probably not a good idea to do 1200 watt sprints or maybe even 800 watt sprints
but other than that just ride the bike til you decide what to do. Next gen Ultegra probably 2 yrs away at least.
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At least you have a shell, more or less, to glue in. Not unusual for bikes now to have nothing but an approximate hole in the carbon. Agreed, at 11 years a carbon bike owes you nothing.
07-22-20, 06:53 PM
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And we stopped using threaded BBs for what reason?
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Agreed. On Click and Clack, The Car Guys this would result in a "fine". Withholding info and all.
IIRC the Advanced Giant frames are a mix of carbon and Al construction. The "spine", or keel, being Al. Is this so? If so then I would think the BB shell is an AL one. Is this so? If so what actually came loose? By "glue" do you mean epoxy? If so do you know which kind was used? Glue is a pretty generic term.
A well done repair can last for a long time. Whether this is one we don't know. Andy
IIRC the Advanced Giant frames are a mix of carbon and Al construction. The "spine", or keel, being Al. Is this so? If so then I would think the BB shell is an AL one. Is this so? If so what actually came loose? By "glue" do you mean epoxy? If so do you know which kind was used? Glue is a pretty generic term.
A well done repair can last for a long time. Whether this is one we don't know. Andy
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07-23-20, 07:57 AM
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And as I re-read this, I was wondering if it was the shell itself that came unglued from the frame or was it the bottom bracket came unglued from the shell. The former is a problem, the latter much less so. I have an old Trek 8000 MTB that was glued aluminum tubes all around. These bikes had a reputation of not lasting very long, but mine is at least 30 years old and just fine. For that matter I also have a Trek 7000 from the same era that I bought on ebay for practically nothing. I used it as my commuter for about 5 years, also without issue.
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07-23-20, 09:47 AM
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How so? It's threaded, not glued. You apply the proper torque and it should not need to be glued. The BB threads into the shell, the shell is glued (or welded/brazed) into the frame.
And as I re-read this, I was wondering if it was the shell itself that came unglued from the frame or was it the bottom bracket came unglued from the shell. The former is a problem, the latter much less so. I have an old Trek 8000 MTB that was glued aluminum tubes all around. These bikes had a reputation of not lasting very long, but mine is at least 30 years old and just fine. For that matter I also have a Trek 7000 from the same era that I bought on ebay for practically nothing. I used it as my commuter for about 5 years, also without issue.
And as I re-read this, I was wondering if it was the shell itself that came unglued from the frame or was it the bottom bracket came unglued from the shell. The former is a problem, the latter much less so. I have an old Trek 8000 MTB that was glued aluminum tubes all around. These bikes had a reputation of not lasting very long, but mine is at least 30 years old and just fine. For that matter I also have a Trek 7000 from the same era that I bought on ebay for practically nothing. I used it as my commuter for about 5 years, also without issue.
07-23-20, 11:50 AM
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The BB shell came out not be BB itself :-). Actually it took the mechanic a good time to figure out it was the loose shell causing the ticking noise. (not the typical creaking noise of the press fit BB, got rid of that long time ago).
