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Rivendell's $4,300 "surpise" bike-Will you one of the lucky 9 owners?

Old 06-29-11, 02:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Doohickie View Post
I wouldn't shell out the green for one of his regular bikes, so I certainly wouldn't shell out that much for one, sight unseen, even if it's supposed to be some kind of wonderful.
+1 But there are plenty of folks who would, and I'm sure cousin Grant is counting on that.

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Old 06-29-11, 02:17 PM
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Originally Posted by MrEss View Post
For $4.5k with a "single chainring" that you can "ride across the country," I'm thinking this might be "Grant wants a 650B Rohloff bike."

If I were loaded, I'd go for it for curiosity's sake. If I'm right about the configuration, it wouldn't even be a bad deal.
You'd HAVE to be loaded, AFAIAC. Oh, wait... you meant "loaded as in rich", not "loaded as in drunk". Never mind...

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Old 06-29-11, 03:10 PM
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Originally Posted by bobbycorno View Post
You'd HAVE to be loaded, AFAIAC. Oh, wait... you meant "loaded as in rich", not "loaded as in drunk". Never mind...

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Little bit of column A, little bit of column B...

But hey, why not pay $4300 for a bike with a frame-set that surely has very close/identical geometry to a bike that's been built before, and a collection of parts that I'm sure you could put together for under $700 with a custom paint-job? The extra work involved in that surely isn't worth the $3000+ you'd save for a bike that you might not even like.

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Old 06-29-11, 03:36 PM
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Originally Posted by 3speed View Post
Little bit of column A, little bit of column B...

But hey, why not pay $4300 for a bike with a frame-set that surely has very close/identical geometry to a bike that's been built before, and a collection of parts that I'm sure you could put together for under $700 with a custom paint-job? The extra work involved in that surely isn't worth the $3000+ you'd save for a bike that you might not even like.
Can you price out a list for me that works out to that amount?

The frames are going to be custom fit, with whatever extras being determined to test. AFAIK, new custom lugged frames alone cost more than $700.
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Since there's no front derailler, must be an internal geared hub and maybe a curved seat tube!
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Old 06-29-11, 04:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Ediblestarfish View Post
Can you price out a list for me that works out to that amount?

The frames are going to be custom fit, with whatever extras being determined to test. AFAIK, new custom lugged frames alone cost more than $700.
The frames from what I read, will be custom fit, by agreement with the client but it sure reads as if they are designed by Grant. Not stating that is a bad thing, but one has to be Riv' reader and happy client to buy in. At least I would think so.

As a side note, Mark Nobilette must be a darn busy guy, building the new Rene Herse's, his own and then these. No wonder his web site price list is from 2008.
From the appearance of his work it looks truly well crafted.
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Old 06-29-11, 04:38 PM
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Rivendell post? I'm guessing 9 pages.
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Originally Posted by repechage View Post
As a side note, Mark Nobilette must be a darn busy guy, building the new Rene Herse's, his own and then these. No wonder his web site price list is from 2008.
From the appearance of his work it looks truly well crafted.
I would hope, but I wonder how many new Rene Herses are being ordered, and there's also the fact that Mark is a bit under the radar as a framebuilder, especially considering the quality of his work and his extensive experience (he was an Eisentraut guy). He's also very nice and not a pushy or flashy personality. I think his workmanship is exceptional, from what I could see up close with the paint on.
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Grant does have his own 'fit', which has a lot of touring bike influence, but it's still going to be using the buyer's measurements and a frame from scratch. He dropped a note on another message board that most of the buyers were very tall, so that's something that will definitely need to be worked around.

There's no such thing as a perfect fit anyway--just particular orientations that work towards the activity you're doing on the bike. Majority of riv's stuff is semi-upright, relaxed riding.

I have my Rivendell A.H.H., and the setup just feels like a more upright, comfy road bike. Nothing crazy or esoteric about it; feels like what I'd expect from a non-competitive road bike geometry, which funny enough, was hard to find when I was shopping. Still, I have extreme reservations about jumping into a new, expensive, unknown bike, so I just looked at the offer and something peculiar.
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Old 06-29-11, 04:58 PM
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Originally Posted by repechage View Post
As a side note, Mark Nobilette must be a darn busy guy, building the new Rene Herse's, his own and then these. No wonder his web site price list is from 2008.
From the appearance of his work it looks truly well crafted.
he does a few more than those even. i know he does velo cult's rando bike (when he's not doing other jobs lol). i'm sure he has a similar deal with other smaller outfits.
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Old 06-29-11, 05:17 PM
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considering there are people who will pay $2500 just for wheels, i'm not surprised all of these were sold. even if you hate the bike you will likely be able to sell it for at least what you paid simply due to the rarity and this here promotion
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Old 06-29-11, 06:36 PM
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I'm hoping for a third top tube and a really, really obscure wheelsize to boot.
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Originally Posted by clasher View Post
I'm hoping for a third top tube and a really, really obscure wheelsize to boot.
Anything to make it easier to make fun of Rivendell
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Old 06-29-11, 08:05 PM
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Bets on what the frame ends up being? I'm thinking, HAS to be a Rohloff bike of some sort. Single-track adventure-tourer?
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Grant crazy?, Charles Manson is crazy, Grant is just different then the rest of the crowd.
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Old 06-29-11, 09:24 PM
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Bets on what the frame ends up being? I'm thinking, HAS to be a Rohloff bike of some sort. Single-track adventure-tourer?
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Old 06-29-11, 09:30 PM
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Not plastic, but Nobilette does do titanium. I like the oddball wheel size idea, the return of 28 x 1 3/4"... it was good for hundreds of millions of Chinese before they got money for cars. They roll over everything, curbs, small dogs...
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Old 06-29-11, 09:32 PM
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Originally Posted by frantik View Post
considering there are people who will pay $2500 just for wheels, i'm not surprised all of these were sold. even if you hate the bike you will likely be able to sell it for at least what you paid simply due to the rarity and this here promotion
I would like a set of Madfibers... my birthday is coming, if everyone just gave a dollar... I'd be all set.
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Well, as much as I was entertained by the Riv offering (I ran across it before this thread), I don't want to be the pot calling the kettle black. Anyone who coughs up 4.3k for an unknown bike is clearly fetishizing Riv, GP, Nobilette, lugs or something. But heck, the monetary value of time I've spent wrenching, polishing, ferretting, etc, cheap old bikes would make 4.3k a drop in the bucket and I don't even have a unique Riv to show for it.

And I respect GP for following his muse. He's making a living, but he certainly isn't getting insanely rich doing it, though, like another poster, I also sorta miss the Riv of the level top tube and truly sensible cycling.

With those pious qualifiers out of the way, this Riv deal reminds me of the codicil to P.T. Barnum's law of a sucker born every minute - "It is morally wrong not to take full advantage of a sucker".

So GP continues to earn my respect
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