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Old 09-22-12, 10:03 PM
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Best 80s cantilever brake?

What do you think is the best canti from the 80s? Pics would be nice if you have them.
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Old 09-22-12, 10:13 PM
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these are basic but i swear they feel the best..
http://www.velobase.com/ViewComponen...117&AbsPos=225
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Early 90's, not sure the exact year. Suntour made by Scott Pederson canti's. If your lucky they can still be bought on flebay.

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I like my Suntour XC Pro SE ( self energizing ) Pedersen design canti's the best out of all the bikes I have had this style of brake on. I also like the early Deore XT's BR-M732's with the motorcycle levers, they work almost as good as the Suntours.The Shimano BR-MT60's,BR-MC70's & BR-AT50's are also a good set up ( no pic). I like the Onza Canti's I have for the cool factor and they do work well, just have to be careful not to over tighten them or they suffer from cracks. I don't know the model of the Dia-Compes I had on my old Mongoose Alta but hey worked well also.

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Originally Posted by Creme Brulee View Post
these are basic but i swear they feel the best..
http://www.velobase.com/ViewComponen...117&AbsPos=225
I have to agree with you. I've run these on a couple of bikes and always felt very, very good about them. Trying to dial in my Avid Shorties recently and it was such a major pain that I strongly considered yanking them and installing the vintage Shimano set on my Boulder.
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Originally Posted by jbchybridrider View Post
Early 90's, not sure the exact year. Suntour made by Scott Pederson canti's. If your lucky they can still be bought on flebay.

wow i like those
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Old 09-23-12, 06:09 AM
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This is a rather timely thread. I have a Univega MTB frame in transit, nothing special, but I was thinking of what brakes to use. I thought I might upgrade the brakes on my Bianchi Boarala from the Deore LX to something nicer and a bit unique but what. I would love Campis but you don't see too many from the '80s these days.

Those XC SEs look interesting I forgot about those.
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Old 09-23-12, 07:01 AM
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I've found a couple sets like mine but have never seen one's like Glennfordx4 has as NOS. Each brake is front or rear specific so the self energizing system works and they seem bomb proof in construction.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/SCOTT-PEDERS...item337c2bee9e

http://www.ebay.com/itm/SCOTT-PEDERS...item3ccabd7a44
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I've got two bikes with the Shimano BR-MC70 brakes- no complaints.
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Since both 80's and 90's cantilevers are being shown, I'd throw in XTR M900 cantilevers, Dia Compe
987's, and NGC 982's. The D/C's for their shoe and spring tension adjustments, the XTR's for their
minimal profile and great stopping power.


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I'm not sure I'd nominate this one for the "best" award, but they're interesting and have tons of adjustability. Due to all the adjustment options, they take a good amount of patience to set up. This is a Tektro knockoff of the WTB Speedmaster.

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Old 09-23-12, 07:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Glennfordx4 View Post
Someone's got their koolstops on backwards.
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Hands down, best I've used...Dia Comp 982 ngc







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The Dia Compe 983 is a favorite of mine. I also like the Suntour Self energizing brake on the rear. I've read warnings about them locking up unexpectedly, but it never happened to me.

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Hands down, best I've used...Dia Comp 982 ngc







Agreed.

Do you have a line on another set?
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if you Scott-Pedersen fans like the originals, PM me: I have a bag full that I once had a buyer for, but he backed out.
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Agreed.

Do you have a line on another set?
I wish...they must be unusual because I haven't seen another set in alloy. I did see one in black if memory serves. I bought these from another member, I think Cyclotoine, and have been thrilled with them...they're exactly as he advertised, and I LOVE the QR feature.

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Originally Posted by Chuckk View Post
As a meeting of cantilever brake experts - does anybody know what these are?
Position of the brake holder on the arms is adjustable and infinitely adjustable spring tension.


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Those are avid brakes. Weird to see them with those XT levers, they usually shipped out with the matching high zoot lever.

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I still have one set of NOS rear Suntour XC SE cant's left that I would love to trade for a set of fronts that match, the pic above is the rear of my DB Topanga & I am running a set of Deore LX cant's up front. Those used & NOS Pedersens are the bomb I would love to have a set for my early Stumpjumper project for now I am going to run a set of Magura race line hydraulic brakes (rim crushers).

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It looks like the "revived" Dia-Compe lineup now includes a new version of the 98x series with the eccentric height mechanism, with the addition of adjustable spring tension. Looks pretty nice, though I don't see the point of the adjuster on the straddle cable end.

This could be just the ticket for those looking for the unobtainium NGC982 (myself included.)
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Whats with this tire? Is the light or dirt or is it really a snakeskin pattern?



While brakes like these Onzas may have been good stoppers, I think these and several other designs Avid, Pauls, and few others suffered from too many adjustment options.

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Those are Sweetskinz tires Bianchigirl, they were (still are?) available in a range of prints.

Just noticed a new non-aero lever from Dia Compe, looks pretty nice: http://www.diacompe.com.tw/product_View.asp?nid=995

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Originally Posted by Chris_in_Miami View Post
It looks like the "revived" Dia-Compe lineup now includes a new version of the 98x series with the eccentric height mechanism, with the addition of adjustable spring tension. Looks pretty nice, though I don't see the point of the adjuster on the straddle cable end.

This could be just the ticket for those looking for the unobtainium NGC982 (myself included.)
The 983 was a slight improvement over the 982. They made it easier to grip the height adjuster by giving it a knurled flange and they added material to stiffen the arms. It looks like they included both improvements in the new ones.

The adjuster at the straddle cable end could be used to adjust for brake shoe wear, with a very slight change in mechanical advantage.
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Originally Posted by Chris_in_Miami View Post
It looks like the "revived" Dia-Compe lineup now includes a new version of the 98x series with the eccentric height mechanism, with the addition of adjustable spring tension. Looks pretty nice, though I don't see the point of the adjuster on the straddle cable end.

This could be just the ticket for those looking for the unobtainium NGC982 (myself included.)
Thanks much for posting this; they look terrific!

I haven't used the 983, but the 982s, IMO, look a LOT better and I've found them plenty stiff and strong...even while carrying a 75 lb AC.
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