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Old 11-18-18, 02:29 AM
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Originally Posted by brawlo View Post


I think they’re referring to the bars that connect at the handhold end, and bars like a set of Dedas that I used to have that had a single mount and came out and separated to 2 handholds

[img]blob:https://www.bikeforums.net/7bc79fed-...1-1beea914a9ec
Also, this means the arm rests need to be in two parts not one wide piece as seen recently as referenced here, https://m.facebook.com/shopforwatts/...e=3&permPage=1

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@Spoonrobot, these issues that we both mention are not mutually-exclusive.
Your first few posts do not really present a clear argument. This now seems to indicate your position is - "TARIFFS" + everything I said - but with no standing for the former?

By extension; are you saying the CEO of ASE is misleading the public at large, the shareholders of his company, and the lawyers working the bankruptcy proceedings by misrepresenting the cause of said bankruptcy? That's quite a bold position to take but I'm interested to see your argument.
Patrick Cunnane, the CEO of ASE, said the ASI distribution business is profitable but the company was unable to turn around the retail business, which has seen sales declines for the last six years.

"We were undercapitalized from the start," he told BRAIN. "We bought (Performance) because two years ago Performance was heavily in debt to ASI. If Performance had failed then, ASI would have failed. So we would have been in this same position but two years ago."
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A couple years back they consolidated the store to a smaller footprint and the repair shop suffered the most while all the racks of bikes stayed.
This happened in multiple stores. There was a significant backlash against the direction some in the company wanted to go with a heavy emphasis on repair/maintenance. The counter-argument was that if the customer did not buy the bike at Performance but brought it in for service that was seen as a lost bike sale - and not as a new service sale and potential future customer. This isn't great data but it is interesting just browsing the Performance web page there are a ton of items with prices that match what I have in my book from 2014. It's also worth noting that a large portion of Performance/Nashbar items do not come from China. They get a lot of stuff directly from Taiwan, Thailand, Japan, India and the USA/Europe.

It's important to focus here, I'm not arguing tariffs are or are not going to create X issue in the bicycle industry at X time. I'm arguing that tariffs had such a minuscule impact on the financial health of ASE as to be immaterial in the face of their other issues, if they had any impact at all. I suspect they had no impact but that's a stretch without seeing the numbers.

"Tariffs made this happen" would be a career saver for upper management or consultants, if they were really a part of this everyone at ASE would be shouting it from the rooftops and you bet they'd be on mainstream news yesterday. "First American Company to Declare Bankrupty in Face of Trumps Poorly Planned Trade War"
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Originally Posted by Spoonrobot View Post
It's important to focus here, I'm not arguing tariffs are or are not going to create X issue in the bicycle industry at X time. I'm arguing that tariffs had such a minuscule impact on the financial health of ASE as to be immaterial in the face of their other issues, if they had any impact at all. I suspect they had no impact but that's a stretch without seeing the numbers.
If your company has got one foot in the grave (for the reasons you mention) and the tariffs are scheduled to arrive (for the reasons I mention) to push you all the way in, what would you do?

It's Chapter 11 now or Chapter 7 later.

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Old 11-19-18, 09:14 AM
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I see that Ashton Lambie has signed for the Huub Wattbike test team and will be riding with the rest of the team in Berlin.
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Old 11-19-18, 01:26 PM
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Spotted on GCN today -- they ID'ed these as Glaetzer's handlebars, but didn't have measurements. Anyone seen/heard anything about these?

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Originally Posted by Poppit View Post
I see that Ashton Lambie has signed for the Huub Wattbike test team and will be riding with the rest of the team in Berlin.
https://huubdesign.com/blogs/news/in...-wattbike-team
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Old 11-19-18, 05:07 PM
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Originally Posted by seau grateau View Post
Spotted on GCN today -- they ID'ed these as Glaetzer's handlebars, but didn't have measurements. Anyone seen/heard anything about these?
My first guess would be BT, but there is an Australian firm that has been doing some custom components for them for the last little while. I don't recall the name, but someone on here mentioned the company. They were the ones who were making the horizontally scalloped seatposts for the national team riders.
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Originally Posted by taras0000 View Post
My first guess would be BT, but there is an Australian firm that has been doing some custom components for them for the last little while. I don't recall the name, but someone on here mentioned the company. They were the ones who were making the horizontally scalloped seatposts for the national team riders.
Didn't AUS team drop BT for Argon18?
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Old 11-19-18, 10:31 PM
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Didn't AUS team drop BT for Argon18?
You're right, so maybe the other company I still can't recall the name of. I think it might have been @pierrej that had the info on the posts. Maybe he has some insider info about the bars?

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Old 11-20-18, 02:11 AM
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Originally Posted by taras0000 View Post
You're right, so maybe the other company I still can't recall the name of. I think it might have been @pierrej that had the info on the posts. Maybe he has some insider info about the bars?
Made locally, same company that does the ribbed seat post and the molded aerobar extensions. None of the team ever really used them but they can be made in any measurements you would like

Also here's the custom "Thomson" also made locally
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@pierrej, you are awesome!
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Long stem is looong.
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Unfortunately I've got very little info about the new argon as it's all very hush hush at the moment, but it should be very very fast, especially at the Olympics.

Here's the image with the sources of everything, both design and manufacture for the older bikes

Here's the link to the webpage
http://www.askil.com.au/Products.html
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Old 11-29-18, 05:36 PM
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Track World Cup III from Berlin

Tissot site is up: Homepage | Tissot Timing

Also TV broadcast scheduled for Sunday Dec 2, 9:30am to12:30 pm EST on Olympic Channel
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I found this quote at https://www.endurancebusiness.com/20...ashton-lambie/
A team spokesperson added, “We’re breaking the mould and doing it our own way. Our chain rings are made by a guy with arthritis in his shed, yet they are the best in the world.”
Is there any info on these chain rings?

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Old 11-30-18, 04:07 PM
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https://www.pyramidcycledesign.co.uk/shop.php
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Old 11-30-18, 09:23 PM
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Originally Posted by 700wheel View Post
Track World Cup III from Berlin

Tissot site is up: Homepage | Tissot Timing

Also TV broadcast scheduled for Sunday Dec 2, 9:30am to12:30 pm EST on Olympic Channel
I is up on FLO Sports right now.
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SRM/Look adjustable carbon track crank(powermeter)
But no 165 and 167.5mm length?
Thatís stupid
SRM PowerMeter SRM Origin Track

at least itís rechargeable
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SRM/Look adjustable carbon track crank(powermeter)
But no 165 and 167.5mm length?
Thatís stupid
SRM PowerMeter SRM Origin Track
Agreed. They straight-up missed the most common crank length used in track cycling...165mm.

They offer:
- 170.0mm
- 172.5mm
- 175.0mm



When the most common crank lengths for trackies are:
- 165.0mm
- 167.5mm
- 170.0mm

I mean, did they even ask anyone who rides a track bike?
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What's silly is that this is modeled after the LOOK ZED crank in coordination with LOOK (I believe).

LOOK knows what's up. They offer two options when you buy a R96:

The ZED TRACK crank is available in two sizes and the length of the crank arms are adjustable thanks to a tri-lobed nut.

Size 1: 165mm / 167.5mm / 170 mm
Size 2: 172.5mm / 175mm / 177.5 mm
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SRM is just putting it's road arms on the track PM.
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Interesting interview, they weren’t that happy about Berlin but 4th in a World Cup isn’t that bad, https://www.velouk.net/2018/12/05/fe...ts-to-aim-for/
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Training App Comparison Matrix

In case anyone is interested, as you hunker down and enter your indoor training period, I did some research on the myriad of training apps out there and created a comparison matrix. This is a work in progress and I add new apps based on feedback.

https://drive.google.com/open?id=10R...RGbpXnW73HoEc2
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Stopped by the local Performance yesterday to check out the Going out of Business Sale. I was surprised to see a Fuji Elite track bike in there. Looked to be slightly used. Price was $2k for the complete bike - with 35 Scattos and DA cranks. It was a 52 frame, so way too small for me.
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