How tall are you and what size frames do you ride?
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I am 5'10"
For a classic fit mostly I ride 56cm but I can ride some 54cm bikes. I prefer a 58cm for more comfort on a long ride... 60+ miles.
For a classic fit mostly I ride 56cm but I can ride some 54cm bikes. I prefer a 58cm for more comfort on a long ride... 60+ miles.
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I'm 5'11", 32" inseam, ride a 56. Never did get fitted. Shame on me. I think I'm on the right size. I've dialed it in to where I'm most comfortable and effective.
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Insight or conclusion from this thread so far is that many ride oversized frames, therefore being perched on the bike rather than nestled within.
At 6'3" I ride a 58cm Cannondale Caad frame with a 57.5 cc top tube, 56cc seat tube, 62cm reach ( measured point of saddle to handlebar inside diameter on angle current with seat to handlebar drop ), 13.5cc stem, 44cm width bars, 16cm Seat to handlebar drop, 85cm seat height center BB to horizontal top seat. And 172.5mm cranks. So Aluminium frame, TI handlebars, stem and seat post and saddle rails, Campagnolo Chorus Gruppo, Carbon cranks, Frt & Rear derailleurs ( cages Carbon ) Look Keo red pedals, Mavic Cosmos wheels ( great for everyday training ) Conti gator skins tires 23's.
To most the set up depicted will look offline. However this has been my racing setup for years. Is actually the bike I ride wether it's a 30km easy spin or a 5 hour 120+km ride in the hills.
I also have an old late 80's Paletti frame in my basement ( a 62cm ) which I bought from Branford Bike ages ago. Raced it One season and shelved it as it was always too big, giving me the feeling of being perched on a fence rather than on a bike. Have been pretty much on Cannons since the 90's, Raleigh Militi 3 carbon and a couple more alum. Cadd Cannondales will be the quiver for next years racing. May also consider a Cervelo or Specialized Tarmac.
At 6'3" I ride a 58cm Cannondale Caad frame with a 57.5 cc top tube, 56cc seat tube, 62cm reach ( measured point of saddle to handlebar inside diameter on angle current with seat to handlebar drop ), 13.5cc stem, 44cm width bars, 16cm Seat to handlebar drop, 85cm seat height center BB to horizontal top seat. And 172.5mm cranks. So Aluminium frame, TI handlebars, stem and seat post and saddle rails, Campagnolo Chorus Gruppo, Carbon cranks, Frt & Rear derailleurs ( cages Carbon ) Look Keo red pedals, Mavic Cosmos wheels ( great for everyday training ) Conti gator skins tires 23's.
To most the set up depicted will look offline. However this has been my racing setup for years. Is actually the bike I ride wether it's a 30km easy spin or a 5 hour 120+km ride in the hills.
I also have an old late 80's Paletti frame in my basement ( a 62cm ) which I bought from Branford Bike ages ago. Raced it One season and shelved it as it was always too big, giving me the feeling of being perched on a fence rather than on a bike. Have been pretty much on Cannons since the 90's, Raleigh Militi 3 carbon and a couple more alum. Cadd Cannondales will be the quiver for next years racing. May also consider a Cervelo or Specialized Tarmac.
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Personally, frame sizing from the rider's height is not going to provide meaningful information due to a lot of variables:
With regard to bicycle frames:
With regard to rider's anatomy:
If anything, a rider's height will only give a ballpark figure on what size frame he/she should be riding.
With regard to bicycle frames:
- Manufacturers have different standards of frame sizing, with most using the seat tube length as the frame's size. This has nothing to do with fit on the bike as a short seat tube can be fixed with a longer seat post.
- The matter is complicated further with sloping top tubes. A good example is Colnago that offers frames in both traditional (horizontal top tube) and sloping geometries.
- Giant offers frames in XS to XL, limiting the available sizes.
- Even with similar top tube lengths, frame sizes vary in stack and reach from one manufacturer to another.
- Manufacturers offer different geometries to fit different riding styles (competitive, endurance, etc.). See above.
- An under/over-sized frame's reach can be remedied with different length stems (up to a certain degree to not affect handling).
- Stack can be remedied with spacers underneath the stem.
With regard to rider's anatomy:
- Not everybody has similar proportions - some have short torsos, long arms, and every other combination thereof.
- Flexibility may fit the rider into smaller frames than the height suggests. Some may not be that flexible. The opposite can also be true.
- Riding style affects the choice of frame size and geometry.
If anything, a rider's height will only give a ballpark figure on what size frame he/she should be riding.
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6'2 and ride 22.5" Trek hybrids. Great riding level even with the stock seat.
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I'm doing an unscientific poll.
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I'm participating because the OP asked. 5' 10" 30' inseam..56cm Trek FX 7.6 and Fuji Rubaix 1.0.
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I'm a new rider and I think my bike may be a bit big. I'm 5'8 and a half and riding a 58 Specialized Comp. I can ride it ok, but I think a 56 may be a better fit. Since I got the bike used and only had a $500 budget I just got it anyway since it was a good deal.
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Insight or conclusion from this thread so far is that many ride oversized frames, therefore being perched on the bike rather than nestled within.
At 6'3" I ride a 58cm Cannondale Caad frame with a 57.5 cc top tube, 56cc seat tube, 62cm reach ( measured point of saddle to handlebar inside diameter on angle current with seat to handlebar drop ), 13.5cc stem, 44cm width bars, 16cm Seat to handlebar drop, 85cm seat height center BB to horizontal top seat. And 172.5mm cranks. So Aluminium frame, TI handlebars, stem and seat post and saddle rails, Campagnolo Chorus Gruppo, Carbon cranks, Frt & Rear derailleurs ( cages Carbon ) Look Keo red pedals, Mavic Cosmos wheels ( great for everyday training ) Conti gator skins tires 23's.
To most the set up depicted will look offline. However this has been my racing setup for years. Is actually the bike I ride wether it's a 30km easy spin or a 5 hour 120+km ride in the hills.
I also have an old late 80's Paletti frame in my basement ( a 62cm ) which I bought from Branford Bike ages ago. Raced it One season and shelved it as it was always too big, giving me the feeling of being perched on a fence rather than on a bike. Have been pretty much on Cannons since the 90's, Raleigh Militi 3 carbon and a couple more alum. Cadd Cannondales will be the quiver for next years racing. May also consider a Cervelo or Specialized Tarmac.
At 6'3" I ride a 58cm Cannondale Caad frame with a 57.5 cc top tube, 56cc seat tube, 62cm reach ( measured point of saddle to handlebar inside diameter on angle current with seat to handlebar drop ), 13.5cc stem, 44cm width bars, 16cm Seat to handlebar drop, 85cm seat height center BB to horizontal top seat. And 172.5mm cranks. So Aluminium frame, TI handlebars, stem and seat post and saddle rails, Campagnolo Chorus Gruppo, Carbon cranks, Frt & Rear derailleurs ( cages Carbon ) Look Keo red pedals, Mavic Cosmos wheels ( great for everyday training ) Conti gator skins tires 23's.
To most the set up depicted will look offline. However this has been my racing setup for years. Is actually the bike I ride wether it's a 30km easy spin or a 5 hour 120+km ride in the hills.
I also have an old late 80's Paletti frame in my basement ( a 62cm ) which I bought from Branford Bike ages ago. Raced it One season and shelved it as it was always too big, giving me the feeling of being perched on a fence rather than on a bike. Have been pretty much on Cannons since the 90's, Raleigh Militi 3 carbon and a couple more alum. Cadd Cannondales will be the quiver for next years racing. May also consider a Cervelo or Specialized Tarmac.
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As someone who fits a lot of people to a lot of bikes the conclusion is that there are too many variables in regard to a simple height measurement to give fitting information, in addition to using measurements I also fit people dynamically to see how they ride as in many cases, one can suggest improvements / adjustments.
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As someone who fits a lot of people to a lot of bikes the conclusion is that there are too many variables in regard to a simple height measurement to give fitting information, in addition to using measurements I also fit people dynamically to see how they ride as in many cases, one can suggest improvements / adjustments.
1 Seat position: Seat height for proper leg extension, seat fore to aft for preservation of the knees and comfort,
2 Bar height, fore/aft as well to avoid over extension/being crunched up/too much weight on the hands/wrists
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I did the same thing when I saw a Colnago Super for only a €100 and had to buy it: 5'8'' and the bike is 58 cm too.
I thought I'd sell it on since the typical advice on here suggests its too big, but after a few adjustments (raising seat slightly and lowering handlebars) it fits like a glove. I've since ridden on bikes that are 50, 53, and 56 cm, but I'm more comfortable, and faster, on the Colnago. I've done 50 kilometre rides on it, commute on it, and had no comfort problems (since I found the right adjustments for me, that is). I can show pics, but I'm sure people will tell me I cannot possibly be comfortable and fast.
I noticed the BB is real low, which makes a difference I guess, and I can't do the typical bikeforums thing of having a handlebar drop that's 5 inches below my seat height, but I ride city streets as much as long-distance so I don't want my ass pointing at the sky and my face looking at the road all the time. I can still get pretty aero by just bending so my back is horizontal and my face is virtually touching the the handlebars (flexibility is just as important as measurements for fit, in my experience).
My advice to you is to just ride a lot, and don't be afraid to tinker with the handlebar adjustments (all of them) as well as seat posts. Eventually you'll find something that works fine.
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Not for a racing bike, I have long arms and legs and I'm 6'3". Position here has to be with the least frontal resistance. Meaning if I'm on the hoods or in the drops, it is necessary to have my back flattened so that frontal area pushing the air from the waist up is predominantly my shoulders, not chest and stomach area.
There is a vast difference between optimal position for a recreational rider versus racing in Cat II and sometimes Pro I/II races. It's all about attaining efficiency on the bike. Or the least amount of energy expended at any one moment.
If your position on the hoods or in the drops is basically upright, a large percentage of your energy expenditure is wasted in overcoming air resistance. We all have to move thru the air but there is little value in imitating a spinnaker against a headwind ...
There is a vast difference between optimal position for a recreational rider versus racing in Cat II and sometimes Pro I/II races. It's all about attaining efficiency on the bike. Or the least amount of energy expended at any one moment.
If your position on the hoods or in the drops is basically upright, a large percentage of your energy expenditure is wasted in overcoming air resistance. We all have to move thru the air but there is little value in imitating a spinnaker against a headwind ...
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A suggestion...maybe shop CL or swap meets for cheap used shoes to try out the fit. That fitter I met? He said finding the right shoe is the single hardest thing for a road cyclist.
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I am 6'0" exactly. I find that 61cm seat tubes with 57-58cm top tubes fit me best.
I don't want to stretch out over the top tube anymore.
I don't want to stretch out over the top tube anymore.
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