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Old 11-22-20, 07:10 AM
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Originally Posted by icemilkcoffee
I just joined the club! I Just bought this 52cm Ironman today:


I got it home, cut the lock off, yanked the cateye meter and sensors off, and replaced the trashed seat:


It’s very dusty but it looks to be very low mileage. Not one spot of rust and the anodization is still intact on the rims.

I have some questions:
1. Has anyone tried to put a 7 speed freewheel on there? Like a modern Shimano or Sunrace freewheel with HG style cogs? I want to change to STI with 7 speeds in the back.

2. The 105 crankset is 165mm. Did it come stock like that for this 52cm frame? It’s kind of surprising.

3. Has anyone found a pink/magenta handlebar tape that exactly matches the paintjob? (Yes- I am going to go all out on color matching!)
Odds are greater the rear hub is a freehub which takes a cassette. If that's the case, then you switch out the freehub body for one that is 7 speed/HG compatible. The switch is simple and not expensive. I think the replacement freehub body is a FH-RM30-7, but I'm not sure.

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Originally Posted by seypat
Odds are greater the rear hub is a freehub which takes a cassette. If that's the case, then you switch out the freehub body for one that is 7 speed/HG compatible. The switch is simple and not expensive.
If it's stock wheels then it requires a freewheel, you just screw it on... but first put a little grease around the threads.

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Originally Posted by icemilkcoffee
Which brand freewheel is it? It seems like some people say the DNP brand freewheels are too wide and the 14t small cog is too big. Unfortunately DNP seems to be the only one making them with 11T small cogs.
Having an 11T cog is quite overrated in 99.5436% of the cycling world.
12-28 is the new fave for the old fartinimous.

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Originally Posted by texaspandj
Welcome, we've been waiting for you, and with the iconic Miami Vice no less.

I've never used sunrace but others here have canklecat
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He da freewheel fella.
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That hub takes a freewheel. I've used SunRace 13-25 and 13-28s on the following years IM Experts with no trouble. I would try the Microshift/Newshift brifters. I have them on two other bikes and like them a lot. The RD will work fine with them.

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Originally Posted by canklecat
Regarding size, freewheels with 14T small cogs forced the chain too close to the chainstay. To prevent rubbing I had to adjust the rear wheel a bit differently in the dropouts, which can affect shifting. I switched back to 13T small cogs.
OP: You will find as many solutions as there are Ironmans, +100 more that worked but were changed.

Mine is a 14-34 Shimano MegaRange 7-speed. Friction shifters and new RD required for the 34. To clear the 14 in my '86 Ironman I needed just one ~1mm washer on the drive side. I didn't worry about redishing. No noticable bad effects, I can still ride it no hands and braking feels no different.

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I did my annual ride-my-age completely unnecessary self-torture fest Saturday. That's 101.4 kiloyears, for Yurpeans. On the Ironman, natch.

It was... not entirely horrible. Neck spasms halfway through. Took a break at home, massage with topical analgesic, finished that night. Miserable neck aches all night. That's why I usually confine my rides to 20-30 miles. That's about my limit before neck and back pain steal all the bliss. Reminds me, I need to get another percussion massager. Those things are great, two golf-ball sized heads that straddle the spine. I wore one out over the course of a year.

The past couple of months I've mostly been riding a nice Diamondback Podium carbon fiber frame built up from my box o' rocks as a 7-speed, just to see if the frame suits me before I put any effort into restoring it to more or less original 10 speed configuration. It'll do. Not any faster than the Ironman, but we don't have any serious climbs here to test the advantages of lighter bikes.

But I wanted to do the annual torture ride on the Ironman, since we're supposed to dance with the partner what brung us to the shindig.

Actually a day late but Friday was either bad weather or I was too tuckered out from resuming jogging this past week for the first time in nearly 40 years. Last time I jogged was in my 20s for military and boxing training. Mostly I walk in addition to cycling, usually 2-5 miles a few times a week. Last week I decided to try adding a little recon shuffle for a few yards at a time, 30-50 steps forward and backward (I used to jog backward for boxing after seeing Muhammad Ali train that way, also wearing combat boots). Pretty soon I stretched it out to 800 yards. I think with a little work I might handle up to a mile. So my legs were kinda dead Friday on the official commemorative date of gittin' older.

Anyway, this reminded me why I won't do another full century unless I can afford a soigneur or a really powerful battery operated percussion massager to tote on the ride. Like it or nuts, I reckon a recumbent is in my future, at least for rides longer than around 30 miles. My old C1-C2 injuries from 2001 are getting worse, along with the scoliosis from various injuries and leg length imbalance (same issue 2019 TdF champ Egan Bernal is suffering now in his early 20s). It's hard to describe but since my 2018 injuries, once those neck spasms start, every bump in the road feels like lightning flashes, I get double-vision and my depth perception suffers. Another reason I quit doing fast group rides -- ain't safe for me or others in a tight paceline.

It was a purty day, mid-70s afternoon, clear and sunny. I didn't stop to snap any pix and figured I'd just grab some still frames from my usual bike videos. Lots of free range venison along the roadsides. While the setting sun was beautiful from my eastbound perspective, I knew the westbound drivers were facing the sun and I didn't want to take a chance on stopping to snap pix and be in their blind spot.

To quote the poet/philosopher Ice Cube, it was a good day.
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Happy Birthday C-Cat.
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Happy Thanksgiving Ya'll.
I just wanted to give a quick shout out to @RobbieTunes for the forks he sent me. Pics and details coming soon. Thanks again R.T.
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1985 Centurion Ironman Dave Scott ad (Bicycling Jun 1985)

I stumbled across this ad this morning
It didn't show up in a quick search of this thread.
So here ya go....




Hey sd5782 (https://www.bikeforums.net/classic-v...l#post20765502)
Yeah, that's right, I'm talkin' to you too!
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Originally Posted by SpeedofLite
I stumbled across this ad this morning
It didn't show up in a quick search of this thread.
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Hey sd5782 (https://www.bikeforums.net/classic-v...l#post20765502)
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Oh that's Super cool. Do you still have your '85?
Here's mine.

It's progressing. The full campy 8 speed group (subbed a 7700 front derailleur) will do for now. Wish I could've snagged a Shimano 10 speed group instead.
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I'm not getting the DA front derailleur to act nice with the veloce shifter. I think I'll try to put the original veloce FD back on. But The problem is the veloce FD is a 31.8 and I need a 28.6. Here'sa pic of the veloce, any suggestions?

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Originally Posted by texaspandj
Oh that's Super cool. Do you still have your '85?
Here's mine.
No, never had one.
But I'm keeping an eye out for a 58cm mostly because the passion you and others have for this model is more infectious than SARS-CoV-2.
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Originally Posted by texaspandj
I'm not getting the DA front derailleur to act nice with the veloce shifter. I think I'll try to put the original veloce FD back on. But The problem is the veloce FD is a 31.8 and I need a 28.6. Here'sa pic of the veloce, any suggestions?
That's a pretty commonly available shim. Kinda spendy for something so simple, especially with shipping if you buy one online.
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Originally Posted by texaspandj
I'm not getting the DA front derailleur to act nice with the veloce shifter. I think I'll try to put the original veloce FD back on. But The problem is the veloce FD is a 31.8 and I need a 28.6. Here'sa pic of the veloce, any suggestions?
I could well be wrong, but that FD can be resized to 28.6
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Originally Posted by RobbieTunes
I could well be wrong, but that FD can be resized to 28.6
Even if it can't be resized, shims are easy to come by. Pretty much all the modern Shimano FDs are sold with big clamps and different shims for smaller tubes, so most bike shops have a drawer full of the leftover shims. If you can't get one from a shop, you can get them online for a few bucks. I got one from treefortbikes a couple of years ago.
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Well, there's this one. Buy it and sell the one you are trying to fit. You could even swap the cages.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/CAMPAGNOLO-...QAAOSw4z5fmhhl

I could be wrong, but most any FD will work there if you adjust the limit screws. Test out that theory with some FDs you have laying around. If that's the case, then find the cheapest 28.6 Campy FD you can find and mount it. Maybe the one I listed above.
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I remember hearing that Centurion went out of business after losing a large uninsured shipment of bikes when a ship sunk in the ocean. Do anyone know anything about that?
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I remember hearing that Centurion went out of business after losing a large uninsured shipment of bikes when a ship sunk in the ocean. Do anyone know anything about that?
I heard that was how the Cinco de Mayo holiday was created. A ship headed for Mexico loaded with mayonnaise sunk on the 5th of May. The holiday was created in memory of the sinking of the mayo. Somewhat similar to this event.


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Originally Posted by RobbieTunes
I could well be wrong, but that FD can be resized to 28.6
Exactly what I was thinking.
I was thinking pushing pins out, drill a new hole.
But, chain tool I was gonna use, the pin diameter is too big. Maybe drill it out?
Also, the piece of metal I would have to drill seems very hard, I have a drill but not a drill press. Maybe a certain type of drill bit is necessary?
Here's close up pics of the FD I really rather use.

Take one pin out how?

After removing pin, slide hardened metal piece over, redrill hole with what? My Uncle Joe (a mechanic) always said "Proper tools give good Results".
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Was the Edmund Fitzgerald carrying bikes as well as mayonaise? Gordon Lightfoot didn't mention either bikes or mayonaise. Maybe eliminated some verses for the sake of shortening the song.
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Originally Posted by texaspandj
I'm not getting the DA front derailleur to act nice with the veloce shifter. I think I'll try to put the original veloce FD back on. But The problem is the veloce FD is a 31.8 and I need a 28.6. Here'sa pic of the veloce, any suggestions?
Looking at the space where the clamp pieces come together, I agree that it can be be respaced. I'd start a new thread on it or search for one that already exists. It's probably been done before.
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Those shims are cheap, though and available everywhere. It might be better to get one instead. Find something you need to order like a chain or some cables and get a shim with it.

https://www.performancebike.com/shim...iABEgJ8f_D_BwE
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Originally Posted by seypat
Those shims are cheap, though and available everywhere. It might be better to get one instead. Find something you need to order like a chain or some cables and get a shim with it.

https://www.performancebike.com/shim...iABEgJ8f_D_BwE
That makes too much sense for someone like me...but yeah, going with a shim. Thanks for the K.I.S.S.>Keep It Simple Stupid.
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