want a carbon fiber bike, but nervous
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People have been using metal since the bronze age, it isn't new and mysterious. You're spot on about the fact that all frame materials fail, all very rarely. I think it's like how a lot of people are afraid to fly and drive instead. The facts are clear but people can't shake the feeling...
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Maybe it's best if you forget about riding a bicycle. It's clearly not something you're comfortable with.
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The article you linked doesn't prove the point you're trying to make. The Spec forks didn't fail catastrophically, and cause serious injuries or death. There were 2 issues - with 1 causing a minor injury - and Spec chose to recall all 12,000 that had been sold. That's what responsible manufacturers do. What that tells me is to buy from a responsible manufacturer.
As I said before...Failure of a frame, or any other component, is one of the least-likely ways you will get injured on a bicycle. No matter what it's made of.
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I'm very comfortable, I've ridden steel bikes since the age of 4 or early 5, when I took off the training wheels, while many other kids my age were still using them. I rode almost daily during the warm season up to my early teens, then a lot in college, and occasionally rode my alum bike with no issues ever since 2006. I like to ride, I'm very comfortable with steel and aluminum bikes. I'm not comfortable with CF though I want a CF Bike. Maybe the frame will not fail, but the CF handlebars, wheels, or most likely the CF fork will fail. I don't see a point getting a CF frame with the rest of components being aluminum. I'd like it to be either all CF or all aluminum. I got the answers I wanted from this thread and made my decision to go with aluminum for my purposes. I see that 99% on here have faith in CF. I'll get back into this hobby with a cheap aluminum bike, and if I'm really into it down the line, I'll purchase a quality CF bike, from a manufacturer like Specialized or Trek, who are trusted for quality CF. Oh wait, didn't Specialized recall 12,000 CF forks? https://www.velonews.com/gear/specia...f-12000-forks/
Why do you think the Great Fork Armageddon isn't happening? Or is the media just covering it up?
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On the off chance somebody open minded is reading this thread wondering if CF is safe to ride or not, I hope logic has prevailed.
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Do you know the term "clickbait?"
There are millions of carbon bikes ridden every day, millions of aluminum bikes, dozens of titanium bikes ... all using carbon forks. Some of every kind of anything is going to have trouble. The are plenty of wrecked metal frames too, just no one is trying to scare you about them. .
There are millions of carbon bikes ridden every day, millions of aluminum bikes, dozens of titanium bikes ... all using carbon forks. Some of every kind of anything is going to have trouble. The are plenty of wrecked metal frames too, just no one is trying to scare you about them. .
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While not specifically horror stories, people posting pictures of their scratched CF frames asking if they are safe, get so many regurgitated responses that people think their bike is going to fold under the weight of a water bottle. I'm glad I grew up in the 70s before the internet or I would be scared of everything.
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Unless posting links to outside media, that is not hate speech and is readily available information, is prohibited by the rules of this forum, I don't see how it's "fair" for a moderator to subjectively make that decision and control free speech. So much for "freedom of expression".
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Unless posting links to outside media, that is not hate speech and is readily available information, is prohibited by the rules of this forum, I don't see how it's "fair" for a moderator to subjectively make that decision and control free speech. So much for "freedom of expression".
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Unless posting links to outside media, that is not hate speech and is readily available information, is prohibited by the rules of this forum, I don't see how it's "fair" for a moderator to subjectively make that decision and control free speech. So much for "freedom of expression".
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Only the US government (and perhaps some other governments) is prohibited from infringing on freedom of speech and expression. Private people can do whatever they want, for the most part, to regulate speech within the confines of their homes and places of business including social media sites.
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Unless posting links to outside media, that is not hate speech and is readily available information, is prohibited by the rules of this forum, I don't see how it's "fair" for a moderator to subjectively make that decision and control free speech. So much for "freedom of expression".
The fact of the matter is you've said your piece, in a very dramatic way, and now it's time to let it go. You're bordering on the edge of disruption. What more can you add without beating the dead horse, especially when it has become obvious you're swimming against the tide. You're a lone salmon swimming upstream hoping to arrive at a place where you can spread your nuggets of wisdom and they can flourish. From experience I can tell you that place is very unlikely to be here. You're not going to get anybody to "rethink" their choice of CF. Spare us the videos and spare us the links, this forum has been down that road many, many times before. You're free to express an opposing opinion anywhere on these forums as long as you are not being disruptive. Spare us the dated multimedia.
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Unless posting links to outside media, that is not hate speech and is readily available information, is prohibited by the rules of this forum, I don't see how it's "fair" for a moderator to subjectively make that decision and control free speech. So much for "freedom of expression".
If you are or were ever serious about your posts/sentiments you should just accept it as a normal occurrence on an Internet forum and move on to the next topic on these great forums.
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