Catnap 

I want to put a tall quill stem similar to a Technomic on one of my bikes, but I also plan on having that stem pantographed. NITTO Technomic stems have the "Technomic" logo engraved on their sides, making it difficult to panto them. Do any other manufacturers, vintage or modern, make a similar stem with an extra-long quill?

icemilkcoffee 

I'm partial to 90 degree stems , instead of tall Technomic type stems. When the 'rise' exceeds the 'run' the stem starts to look awkward. With a 90 degree stem there is less of the rise.
Anyways, a Sakae stem should provide some space for pantos:

Once you strip the black paint and logo off.

Piff 

Soma, and Origin8 both have a tall 26.0 stem. Don't believe either are quite as tall as the technomic though. And both have print of some kind that will have to be removed.

Small cog

Kalloy make similar stems that are cheaper but not quite so nicely finished as Nitto but perfectly good quality that might suit your needs, search Kalloy Uno for different models I have this one on a bike.

Pompiere

The Soma Sutro stem splits the difference between the Technomic and most normal height stems. It is about 1 inch shorter than a Technomic stem. There is a design laser etched on top and Soma is etched on the sides. I have several in black and silver, both 25.4 and 26 mm. Here is one on my Cannondale.


1990 Cannondale ST400

Catnap 

Interesting approach to solving this problem! I had an RB-T with a Sakae 90-degree stem on it, and it worked well. That said, I don't think I share your point of view on the aesthetics of rise vs. reach on a stem. I agree that there is a point at which really tall quill stems look silly, but I'm not sure where that point is. The 90-degree ones never sat right with me, visually.

Thanks for the suggestion, but I'm in search of a stem that looks visually more like a traditional road bike design from NITTO or Cinelli.

The Sutro seems to be exactly what I'm looking for. I actually found the same stem on AliExpress with no logos on it for much less, about $12 with shipping: https://www.aliexpress.us/item/2251832822320033.html. AliExpress only seems to have 25.4mm clamp versions, but that works for me.

TenGrainBread 

In terms of vintage stems, I believe Belleri made some tall plain quill stems comparable to Technomics. I saw a few at Yellow Jersey in Arlington WI last time I was there.

etherhuffer 

Tell us more. I would love to know how you will do the pantograph work.

Catnap 

I've worked in the past with La Vie Velo Classique in Budapest, Hungary to pantograph a DA 7400 crankset. It was a great experience and a fantastic finished product. Check out the article I wrote with all the details - https://djcatnap.com/custom-3rensho-...elo-classique/



For the Zunow stuff, however, I'm planning to work with CycloRetro in Melbourne, Australia. La Vie Velo Classique is not currently doing panto work on brands the owner doesn't already have set-up for. I reached out to the owner of CycloRetro and he has done Zunow pantograph work before. He's also open to doing new brands, and doesn't charge a set-up fee for them. His prices are very reasonable, and from the photos on his website, everything looks top-notch. It'll cost over $1000 for a full groupset, but when you consider the unobtainium-level rarity of a full-panto Zunow group, and the typical time and costs it takes to acquire each component on the vintage market (if you can even find it!) it's by far more cost-effective to have it made custom.

zukahn1 

Back in the day SR did make a lot off nice 1 inch unbranded minimal branded stems with either or both tall height or long length but like the one I have most are on working whole bikes. But relatively plain and basic with nice smooth light finish and quality alloy good for engraving polishing if you can find one. Random example off ebay I have no relation to seller just a example.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/25632985157...Bk9SR8DL4ZyIYw

fender1

Not sure if this style would work but I got this on Amazon for $12.

https://www.amazon.com/WEERAS-1-Bolt...grid_rp_0_16_i

Catnap 

I saw those and was interested, but concerned it might be low-quality due to the price. Can you share any photos of the actual stem you received? What’s your thoughts on the quality now that you have it in hand? Also, is it made of steel or aluminum? It looks like it might be steel…

fender1

Sure, see pics below.

I can confirm it is aluminum. The finish is good, not great. I imagine it could be polished a bit more.
It only seems to be available in a 90mm length.
Hope that helps!

Catnap 

fender1 thanks for the photos! I agree that the finish of that stem leaves a bit to be desired, especially from that last "behind" angle. However, that could be cleaned up with an hour or two in the workshop. It's classy and tall, and a good deal for vintage restorations.

sd5782 

Ditto on the SR. They made a Technomic length one, but in short reach. I also found one about an inch shorter in about an 80 mm reach. I like it. @Pompiere, what bag is that on that nice looking Cannondale? It fits nicely with that build. Classy rig.

Pompiere

Thanks! What else to use on a Cannondale bike but a Cannondale bag? It is a Cannondale Signal that I bought back in the 1980s. I found the bike two years ago at the Bowling Green swap. It had been rode hard and put away wet, but it cleaned up well.

sd5782 

Thanks Ron. I wasn’t aware of that version of Cannondale bag, but I like it. I hope I’d doesn’t suffer the fate of my older Cannondale bags and break at the attachment latch. I don’t have an aluminum bike and was never very interested, but the ST Cannondales do look interesting to try sometime. My only gripe is that I read where even getting 32s on was a bit iffy.

rondini

Zenith make a 180mm quill stem without any branding. It is the same as the Dia Compe Gran Compe one but half the price. It comes in 25.4 or 26.0 clamp size, but I think it is only available in 80mm reach.

sd5782 

Found a pic of the 80mm SR. It is about 22.0 diameter vs 22.1 on some others that are marked 22.2. With the wedge bolt it snugs up nicely and looks plenty vintage. Fairly tall too.





I did have to search for a time on eBay to find this one, and I don’t remember seeing it in this height longer than 80 reach. The 60 reach is more common, and taller still. I think Origin 8 also makes one that is more modern looking. The lettering is easily removed on it.