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Old 09-12-10, 02:02 PM
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My early 1980s Ciocc San Cristobal road bike updated with first generation Look #PP65 clipless pedals, aero brake levers and a Selle SMP saddle:
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The STI's will be in the next upgrade I take it?
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Originally Posted by Carabo
The STI's will be in the next upgrade I take it?
Nah, I'm "old school". I'll stick with my 1980s Campy Super Record derailleurs with down-tube mounted friction shifters. STI reminds me of automatic transmission on a car - no skill required to shift and when it malfunctions you're SOL!
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Originally Posted by ciocc_cat
Nah, I'm "old school". I'll stick with my 1980s Campy Super Record derailleurs with down-tube mounted friction shifters. STI reminds me of automatic transmission on a car - no skill required to shift and when it malfunctions you're SOL!
then what are you doing in this thread
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Originally Posted by thirdgenbird
then what are you doing in this thread
+1

Trolling or made an "honest" mistake.
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Old 09-12-10, 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted by thirdgenbird
then what are you doing in this thread<br>

Trolling or made an "honest" mistake.
Doh. I got the clipless pedals and the fancy saddle. Did I miss something?

Guess I thought CV would be more like 50+ than the Road Forum.
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Originally Posted by ciocc_cat
Doh. I got the clipless pedals and the fancy saddle. Did I miss something?

Guess I thought CV would be more like 50+ than the Road Forum.
We are a fairly agreeable sort, but you posted that very nice bike of yours in a thread where folks feature C&V bikes that have been upgraded to STI's.

.......and then you said they require no skill to operate.

...... and in the case of my Campy shifters, I simply repair the worn-out, or damaged parts.

Even in the case of Shimano STI's, I keep a can of WD-40 to flush them out if there is an issue.

Cures many ills I have found.

Hardly SOL, my friend.
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Originally Posted by ciocc_cat
Doh. I got the clipless pedals and the fancy saddle. Did I miss something?

Guess I thought CV would be more like 50+ than the Road Forum.
Not a problem. I once posted a bike "upgraded" to 2x10, but still with DT shifters... I, too, forgot the title of the thread. The folks here were polite enough to point out my mistake in PM's.

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Originally Posted by ciocc_cat
Doh. I got the clipless pedals and the fancy saddle. Did I miss something?

Guess I thought CV would be more like 50+ than the Road Forum.
I did not mean to come across rude or unaccepting, I was just confused

Its A nice bike that should be in the "steel club" thread
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Old 09-12-10, 05:19 PM
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Originally Posted by gomango
We are a fairly agreeable sort, but you posted that very nice bike of yours in a thread where folks feature C&V bikes that have been upgraded to STI's.
To quote Steve Martin, "Well EXCUUUUUSE ME!" I guess the "ergo" part had me thinking of cut-out saddles rather than shifters. I re-read the OP's post more carefully and decided that wasn't what he was talking about. My goof!

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.......and then you said they require no skill to operate.
Sorry, I should have said STI requires "less skill", because that is the simple truth. There's no intended insult nor shame in that - that is after all one of the benefits of ever advancing cycling technology. If it wasn't a significant benefit then the Pros wouldn't use it, but it does have its drawbacks and advantages as does any advance. However, we all adapt and collectively embrace (for the most part).

So to recap - not planning on upgrading my otherwise-updated Ciocc to STI and genuinely sorry if I posted in the wrong thread (which I apparently did).
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^Not your fault at all. If you're not "in the know" (we were all there once), "STI/Ergo" is not a very informative term on its face. Honestly I have no idea what STI stands for. I prefer the term "brifter," since that at least provides some description of what the little gadget does.
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Shimano
Total
Integration
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Originally Posted by thirdgenbird
Shimano
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Integration
Actually, it's System Total Integration. SPD is Shimano Pedaling Dynamics.
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Originally Posted by well biked
Actually, it's System Total Integration. SPD is Shimano Pedaling Dynamics.
Didn't Shimano invent STI? For the record, I didn't know what it stood for either - I just seem to recall Shimano introducing it back in the TdF years ago.
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Old 09-12-10, 06:21 PM
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Originally Posted by ciocc_cat
Didn't Shimano invent STI? For the record, I didn't know what it stood for either - I just seem to recall Shimano introducing it back in the TdF years ago.
Well, STI is Shimano's version of integrated shifter/brake levers, I'm just saying the S in STI doesn't stand for Shimano it stands for System. Doesn't really make sense, I agree.
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TdF
STI's with SPD's.
Riding WFO, then SNAFU.
SOL, again.
DNF

AFAIK, DT is OK.
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Originally Posted by robbietunes
tdf
sti's with spd's.
Riding wfo, then snafu.
Sol, again.
Dnf

afaik, dt is ok.
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Originally Posted by well biked
Actually, it's System Total Integration. SPD is Shimano Pedaling Dynamics.
your wrong:

https://techdocs.shimano.com/media/te...9830609300.pdf
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Originally Posted by thirdgenbird
Okay. I think it's on Sheldon's site that it says System Total Integration = STI. It would make more sense if the S is for Shimano.
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Originally Posted by well biked
Okay. I think it's on Sheldon's site that it says System Total Integration = STI. It would make more sense if the S is for Shimano.
it looks like sheldon did in fact say that. he was a great guy, but its not the only error on his site.
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The RSX STI's are the only mechanical addition. I put them up so high because I guessing that this
lady, as a novice, will be riding the hoods. I sold it to her for $250. Fair price, I believe.






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Originally Posted by well biked
Actually, it's System Total Integration. SPD is Shimano Pedaling Dynamics.
Are you sure? I have definitely seen/read Shimano Total Integration and I think it was in Shimano technical materials.
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Are you sure? I have definitely seen/read Shimano Total Integration and I think it was in Shimano technical materials.
Oops, sorry. I didn't see that you had already received more than enough grief on this one.
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Originally Posted by FstrMnky
Finally got her rideable!

Haven't put my pedals on yet, just some temporary old ones to ride it around the block.

Unfortunately, i wasn't careful enough while taking photos & it blew over (damn kansas wind!), scratching my new bar tape & a bar plug. Oh well, she was far from perfect to begin with, frame has several different colors of blue touch up paint & "patina" on the chrome but they are only original once. I did use a NOS dura-ace BB, an aerodynamic Campy seat post, & a very cool "Pinarello" pantographed stem to top her off.

Looking forward to riding her lots but won't be able to for a few weeks due to moving house. Should be fun & she fits me perfectly based on a very short ride.

Link to her piccy (if it works):
https://www.flickr.com/photos/53107371@N07/4902488278
https://farm5.static.flickr.com/4123/...a49502f606.jpg
Very nice. BTW, I was once photographing a vintage 10m international competition air rifle set on a saw horse when a strong and unexpected gust of wind blew it off and cracked the stock.

I am contemplating a very similar Pinarello build with a DA 7400 group. What brifters are you using, 8-speed?
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Update from page 39. I've added clipless pedals, tri-color dual-pivots, 3t evol hinged stem, polished the original SR Laprade seatpost, and moved the levers up for comfort/reach. I've put about 100 miles on it since I've finished it. I LOVE my bike!


51cm Scwhinn Paramount
Stronglight A9 headset
3T Evol stem
3T Mod Gran Prix bars
Campy Record Ergo levers 10sp
Bontrager tape
IRD cartridge BB
7410 crankset
7700 front and rear derailleurs
Sram 970 chain
Mavic Open Pros laced to 600 hubs w/ Conti Gatorskins
6403 dual pivot calipers
SR Laprade seatpost
Selle Italia Turbo saddle
Jagwire cables and housings

What a fun build, I can't wait to do another

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