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Old 07-19-19, 05:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Manny66
I recently sold a set of those here on Bike Forums that Ive had since 1982,great solid pedal, but I have 2 of the Black Campy Record aluminum pedals already.
The one with the black anodized aluminum rails wrapped around was called Superleggera - super light.

Campy knew there should be demand or a lighter pedal. My set came on my 1980 Masi (bought used around 1985). I had a set of the earlier 1037 steel-railed pedal (the spindle/arm central part was aluminum) as far back as 1969, when I was in high school.

One reason for not going with aluminum earlier could have been that metal slotted cleats wore out the aluminum rails over time. My Masi was raced when it was new and the rails show it. Perhaps the riding community let Campy know that wear was not a problem, I don't know.

The very close copy by Kyokuto from the late '60s into the 1970s, was also steel and if anything, heavier. Nice looking pedal, but the bearings were not as tight.

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Originally Posted by T-Mar
Easiest way to date the hubs is to remove the locknuts and check the open format date codes stamped on the back. Hub locknuts don't get replaced very often, so the probability of them not being OEM is very small. However, make sure you check both locknuts on each hub, as Campagnolo wasn't very good with their stock rotation on small parts like these and you often find two different date codes.
Also, the locknuts had the dates stamped rather deeply, which created stress risers. I had splitting of the lockwasher a few times, and had to cajole an LBS into letting me pick one from their box of unknown fasteners. So there are a lot of reasons why vintage Campy hubs might not have matching date codes.
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When they came out, I thought that the lighter Supperleggeri pedals would make a difference, racing, They looked pro, which didn't hurt either. I first got them in the fall of 74. With plastic cleats they didn't wear so fast. But with plastic cleats, you didn't walk in your shoes, with my Dettos of the time, to keep them stiff, I didn't walk 10 feet if I could help it. In '76, with fiberglass soled adidas, and Anquetil plastic cleats w/ metal inserts, the balance changed. And they rarely wore evenly, given the narrowness of the cleats.

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Who cared Bitd about date codes??? Certainly not Campy, or Falerio Masi, or... anyone. I personally never fractured a locknut, but had plenty of unmatched ones. Even on cranks, it was the other number stamp that really mattered, length. Pista, 'cause it meant 165 mm single ring generally speaking.
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Originally Posted by Salamandrine
The chromed steel cages held up to the metal slotted shoe cleats people used to use. Those cleats will burn through an aluminum cage pretty fast. Even plastic cleats would wear out an aluminum pedal cage eventually.
Quite true. I've long wondered why Campagnolo didn't copy Zeus and use titanium for the cages. "Not invented here," maybe?
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Originally Posted by Road Fan
The very close copy by Kyokuto from the late '60s into the 1970s, was also steel and if anything, heavier. Nice looking pedal, but the bearings were not as tight.
The KKT "Pro-Ace" pedals were as close a copy of the Record pedal as you're likely to find anywhere, right down to the rifling on the axles. The axles, cones, and locknuts also interchange with Record. I haven't found the bearings to be any less smooth than Record, either. You can often find Pro-Ace pedal at ridiculously low prices on eBay.

KKT did make an aluminum cage version of the Pro-Ace as well, but curiously, unlike the steel cage version, it lacked the "kick-tab" to facilitate shoe entry into the toeclip:

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Any ideas as to what the time period was for the Record pedals, using chromed cages and having the strap loops on the ends/back side? I've seen Record chromed cage pedals with and without the strap loop, and not just ground away from breakage, or a cobbled attempt at lightening something.

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Originally Posted by JohnDThompson
The KKT "Pro-Ace" pedals were as close a copy of the Record pedal as you're likely to find anywhere, right down to the rifling on the axles. The axles, cones, and locknuts also interchange with Record. I haven't found the bearings to be any less smooth than Record, either. You can often find Pro-Ace pedal at ridiculously low prices on eBay.

KKT did make an aluminum cage version of the Pro-Ace as well, but curiously, unlike the steel cage version, it lacked the "kick-tab" to facilitate shoe entry into the toeclip:

I found the KKT bearings to have a little play, while the Campy ones had zero. Smoothness was very very good for both, but edge to Campy. Remember what else we had - Sheffield, Verma, and Lyotard low and high. I really like the Berthets and respect the rattraps for still turning, but Campy (and KKT) were quite far ahead.
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Originally Posted by qcpmsame
Any ideas as to what the time period was for the Record pedals, using chromed cages and having the strap loops on the ends/back side? I've seen Record chromed cage pedals with and without the strap loop, and not just ground away from breakage, or a cobbled attempt at lightening something.
My guess would be late 70s to early 80s. Catalog 17 (1974) still shows the Record pedals with the strap loop, but catalog 18 (1985) shows them without the loop. I have a copy of the 1982 "Olympic" edition catalog somewhere, but I'll be darned if I can find it now.
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Originally Posted by JohnDThompson
My guess would be late 70s to early 80s. Catalog 17 (1974) still shows the Record pedals with the strap loop, but catalog 18 (1985) shows them without the loop. I have a copy of the 1982 "Olympic" edition catalog somewhere, but I'll be darned if I can find it now.
Thanks much John, that is what I kind of figured out, I have 18, and was headed to dig out the others in the Velobase links, just thought that the learned elders here would know the time frame. My '74 Raleigh International had the strap loops on its NR pedals, and they had a '73 date code on the parts, IIRC.

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Of course no one cared about date codes back in the day. Kind of handy these days though, all these years later.
It makes me wonder why Campy used them at all.
But only on hub lock nuts, crank arms and NR derailleurs, if memory serves.
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