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Old 10-19-17, 07:36 AM
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Anyone have any experience of attaching soles to uppers?

Are the cement style ways of attaching strong enough to hold up to track?

Would wearing straps reduce the strength requirement of the bonds?
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Would wearing straps reduce the strength requirement of the bonds?
Yes.
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Old 10-19-17, 09:39 AM
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How does one go about getting a BT frame? I've always been interested in buying one, but it seems like it's a secret club. They don't publish prices, how to buy one, geometry, or any other specs.

How much are they new?
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Originally Posted by carleton View Post
How does one go about getting a BT frame? I've always been interested in buying one, but it seems like it's a secret club. They don't publish prices, how to buy one, geometry, or any other specs.

How much are they new?
No secret club, just need a big bank account lol

Last I checked the cost for a new Edge frame was roughly $7k aud

You have to contact them directly via email, and as you said there isn't much info in regards to geom or specs


I currently have a 2nd hand stealth, my last frame was also a stealth but was a very early version and a size smaller. My wife now rides it.
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Originally Posted by Huskey View Post
No secret club, just need a big bank account lol

Last I checked the cost for a new Edge frame was roughly $7k aud

You have to contact them directly via email, and as you said there isn't much info in regards to geom or specs


I currently have a 2nd hand stealth, my last frame was also a stealth but was a very early version and a size smaller. My wife now rides it.
Thanks for the reply!

Do they make them to order, as in: I call, order, pay, then they start laying up carbon? (I hear LOOK does that). Or do that have them in stock and ship immediately?

Can I request a geometry (basically a long TT and tall head tube) as I would only be using drop bars, or do they only use a template?
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Old 10-19-17, 01:17 PM
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My buddy with one said it was closer to $5k, due to low exchange rates. Shipping was like $400 though.

He said he had to wire them payment and the bike shipped or arrived about six weeks later.
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Old 10-19-17, 06:46 PM
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They're pretty approachable via email, and yes about $AU7k which makes it a good time to buy for you US guys. Interestingly though I have a very strong mate riding a 59cm version and he says his old Felt TK1 that he 'upgraded' from was actually stiffer.
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My buddy with one said it was closer to $5k, due to low exchange rates. Shipping was like $400 though.

He said he had to wire them payment and the bike shipped or arrived about six weeks later.
That's not too crazy being that the TK FRD (Felt has redone their lineup) is $4000USD.

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They're pretty approachable via email, and yes about $AU7k which makes it a good time to buy for you US guys. Interestingly though I have a very strong mate riding a 59cm version and he says his old Felt TK1 that he 'upgraded' from was actually stiffer.
That's interesting.

Do you know if they may them to order or have pre-made stock sizes?
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Old 10-19-17, 09:55 PM
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I would guess that they would have some sort of stock level. Perhaps it's quite low, like maybe 1 or 2 frames in each size. But there's enough demand for them to warrant not waiting until each individual order to manufacture
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Old 10-19-17, 11:06 PM
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Originally Posted by brawlo View Post
I would guess that they would have some sort of stock level. Perhaps it's quite low, like maybe 1 or 2 frames in each size. But there's enough demand for them to warrant not waiting until each individual order to manufacture
There's enough used by the state and aus teams that they should have a reasonable (relative) amount of stock. I think they've also started doing a 61cm frame recently too.

Best way would be email as mentioned and I've heard pricing is in the 7-8k aud region, and the sprint bars look cool.

Josiah Ng has a new one and is one of few who has ridden a couple high level frames, reckoned that it was way stiffer than his Look but didn't quite ride as nicely.
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Speaking of LOOK and larger frame sizes...

It seems that the riding bigger frames is becoming popular now and Felt now offers a 60 in all of their frames and pierrej says BT offers a 61. What's up with LOOK? They still only offer the R96 in a Medium 56cm TT as the largest size. At least 2 of their ambassador riders Bauge and Sireau are over 6ft tall.



Why are they stuck making 56cm top tubes?

Does their design not hold up in larger sizes? That's my only guess. Otherwise, they are simply leaving money on the table as taller sprinters simply choose something else.
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Old 10-20-17, 05:33 AM
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i think the bigger question is, how can they sleep at night with sizing nomenclature of XXS, XS, S, and Medium?

HOW CAN SOMETHING BE MEDIUM IF IT'S THE BIGGEST
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Fave bike case for flying with your track bike (bonus if it has room for more wheels)?
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Originally Posted by carleton View Post

Why are they stuck making 56cm top tubes?

Does their design not hold up in larger sizes? That's my only guess. Otherwise, they are simply leaving money on the table as taller sprinters simply choose something else.
As ridiculous as it may sound, I'd guess that it could be that the French are pretty traditional people and are maybe stuck in the 'smaller than your road bike' era
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Fave bike case for flying with your track bike (bonus if it has room for more wheels)?
I love my Orucase Airport Ninja. It's a semi-soft case, super well protected with thick vinyl, dense padding, and super tough canvas. Everything straps down super snugly. I've even traveled with a disc wheel in it several times. It's small enough to be checked without a fee, and it will fit a helmet, track sack, shoes, and kit bag in the corners of it with no problem. Wheels, fork, seatpost, pedals, and handlebars come off and get stowed in there. I keep a few pieces of pipe padding, bubble wrap, and extra bags in my bag for extra protection... but it takes about ten minutes to break down or build up the bike, packing and unpacking it.

I fly with either my track or road bike a solid handful of times each year, and this case has been terrific for four years. My partner has one too.

It only fits 2 wheels though. If I wanted to bring more I'd just also check a padded doublewheelbag and keep my fingers crossed.
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Was looking at that one
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Fave bike case for flying with your track bike (bonus if it has room for more wheels)?
Pika Packworks. Especially if you need one custom made. My Tiemeyer had a built-in seat mast, and at 58cm TT, the bike simply wouldn't fit in a standard bike box. I sent him the geo chart of my frame and he made a custom bag to fit it in a few weeks. Worked fine on several cross-country air trips and via FedEx.
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I drag around so much STUFF it would never fit in one case. I am going to Nats next year, and getting an early start on how to get my gear there is not a bad idea!
@southernfox, thanks for asking that question!
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I drag around so much STUFF it would never fit in one case. I am going to Nats next year, and getting an early start on how to get my gear there is not a bad idea!
@southernfox, thanks for asking that question!
There's this weird progression of "amount of crap" we carry around during our careers as trackies:

Intro Class Participant: 0 Units of Crap
Newbie: 1 unit of Crap
Beginner: 2 units of Crap
Intermediate: 4 units of Crap
Local Regular: 6 units of Crap
Masters Traveling Racer: 10 units of Crap (15 if married and has spouse-sherpa)
P/1/2: 2 units of Crap
Old Salty Dog: 1 unit of Crap
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Originally Posted by carleton View Post
There's this weird progression of "amount of crap" we carry around during our careers as trackies:

Intro Class Participant: 0 Units of Crap
Newbie: 1 unit of Crap
Beginner: 2 units of Crap
Intermediate: 4 units of Crap
Local Regular: 6 units of Crap
Masters Traveling Racer: 10 units of Crap (15 if married and has spouse-sherpa)
P/1/2: 2 units of Crap
Old Salty Dog: 1 unit of Crap
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Well P/1/2 probably have coach, team assistant,team mechanic, etc carrying their other units of crap
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Well P/1/2 probably have coach, team assistant,team mechanic, etc carrying their other units of crap
ha.

i wish.

i got it dialed this year. shoe bag, helmet bag, track sack, clothes bag, and food bag all fit in my backpack; rollers in one hand, bike on a shoulder, and extra wheels in the other hand. one trip from the car to the infield.
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ha.

i wish.

i got it dialed this year. shoe bag, helmet bag, track sack, clothes bag, and food bag all fit in my backpack; rollers in one hand, bike on a shoulder, and extra wheels in the other hand. one trip from the car to the infield.
I've got a little red fold up wagon. Trust me, I can fill it up!
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I've got a little red fold up wagon. Trust me, I can fill it up!
i've really considered those wagons. but if i get too used to that for nearby racing, what am i gonna do when i fly to a race and all i can bring is what i can check and carry?
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I have the wagon too. I bring it sometimes - mostly on long race days when I am also bringing a larger cooler of food and water for more than just a few hours. It's convenient and a hassle at the same time.

Basically, I can carry my gear bag, track bag, small cooler, race wheels and bike down to the track. If I want to add anything to that - folding chair, larger cooler, or rollers, I need the wagon. At nationals, it was incredibly convenient to only have to make one trip and to keep all my stuff in one place. At the same time, it's kind of a hassle to maneuver through a crowded infield.

The challenge I face is that I drive a rather small car with a small trunk, and the wagon takes up about 30 percent of my trunk.
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