hack

Bay Area super burritos ... big money.

What's the current Oakland course? Still figure 8 with hairpin and finish on the incline next to the park?

tetonrider

i don't know this race, of course, but personally i feel like the penalties for late registration are really low for bike races. with the chance of injury, illness or bad weather, the extra $5 or $10 on top of $50 or even $150 in the case of some stage races doesn't matter so much. (of course i'd rather save money than spend it unnecessarily, but it doesn't take too many missed events to make the math work.)

i know that pre-reg benefits the promoters, but i feel like they should price pre-reg more aggressively -- or, more likely, make penalties higher for late reg -- to create the incentive.

even at $60, the cost of a bike race is low relatively to what the event actually costs to put on. have you seen the cost of some 5k running races? those involve minimal road closure, get tons of participants, have fewer hazards, and are done in like an hour, max.

as bike racers we don't see it that way, but race fees in 2017 probably do not reflect what it takes to keep this as a sustainable support, esp for promoters.

sorry, i know this is the norcal race thread, but it seemed relevant.

UmneyDurak

Mostly, although it's rectangular this year.
Webster, 19th, Franklin, 22nd, Webster

aaronmcd

Oh drat! I didn't notice the new course

mattm

Ugh that kinda sucks.. I thought the flyer said something about a new course, but I was hoping it was old info/a copy-paste thing from an old flyer or something.

I guess the "hairpin"/100-degree turn is the same one as before, at Franklin & 22nd? I've done this race three times but have no idea what any of the streets are called.

UmneyDurak

Seems like they just eliminated 8 part of it? Looking at the map.
I am just glad the U turn on top of the hill is gone.

What's the objection to new course?

hack

So, this? Guessed on S/F:

UmneyDurak

Yep, looks like it.

Heh 50 minutes too. At least it's last race and then it's beer time!

mattm

I keep hearing about a u-turn at the top of the hill, but that hasn't been a thing on this course since 2013 as far as I can tell. Anyway yeah that sounds crappy.

I don't object to the new course - I'll race just about anything - but I considered the old course special in the sense it was so different from most other courses (besides Modesto I guess).

UmneyDurak

Damn I guess that's the last time I raced there. Time flies!
What about Lodi, that's also 8 shape.

hack

Congrats on taking the BAR @mattm ... great accomplishment in that sea of racers.

mattm

Thanks man!

I'm surprised it worked out the way it did, given I couldn't really race in Jan & Feb.

UmneyDurak

Well my car was broken in to in San Jose by Alumn Rock, and messenger bag that I had for 12+ years, custom order from Cal Cycling team when I was under grad there, stolen. It was dirty, covered in pain in spots, pretty much worthless monetary, but had great sentimental value. **** thieves.

UmneyDurak

Anyone have a video of CAT3 finish of Golden State Circuit race. The last lap, last two turns, chicane.

Thanks

hack

Teammate carries a camera from time to time. Will see if he had it running.

UmneyDurak

Thanks!

UmneyDurak

This just in Brisbane Crit is ON!!!!
It will be on July 15th.
https://www.bikereg.com/brisbanecriterium2018

mattm

"fast 0.4 mile loop with five corners"

sweeeeet!

aaronmcd

How about Regalado? It's always been removed from the calendar other years, so I've never done it - not even sure if it's ever been done in years past... but if any of you have done it is it a flatlander race?

UmneyDurak

Hmm San Rafael Men Pro1/2/3/4/5 race as third race of the day... How much of a charlie foxtrot is that?

Ttoc6

wtf... too many cats.. Who is gonna race that? Will USAC sanction something like that?

UmneyDurak

Well it's USAC sanctioned race, sooo yes?

EDIT: Oh. Double checked bikereg. It's fixie race, and only 25min. They flier just says pro1/2/3/4/5 and 50 mint. :/

Fingolfin

If the fixie race is actually USAC sanctioned it would be interesting to find out how they managed it. My understanding, is for a race to be held under USAC road race rules the bike must have a free wheel and brakes on both wheels,. However, under track rules those parts are only allowed for non-championship TT and pursuit races. There are also some fairly specific lane and distance marking requirements for an approved track course.

UmneyDurak

So... Thoughts about RK development?

hack