Restoration/Preservation of Raleigh Competition G. S.
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Restoration/Preservation of Raleigh Competition G. S.
I got it with much of the Catalog Spec. Missing a wheel, the rear rim is an Ambrosio Elite,
the FW is a Suntour 13/28 and obviously the saddle.
First concern is the preservation of the decals. I'm looking for advice on removing some
oxidation while not harming the graphics and preserving the graphics from the abuse of normal riding and handling.
Not a candidate for refinishing.
the FW is a Suntour 13/28 and obviously the saddle.
First concern is the preservation of the decals. I'm looking for advice on removing some
oxidation while not harming the graphics and preserving the graphics from the abuse of normal riding and handling.
Not a candidate for refinishing.
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That looks really nice. I would wash the frame very lightly with a windex, or something very mild. That may not do much, I also like to wipe down everything with a motor oil or wd40. That will do wonders of course you will need to careful at the decals. On top of that one can do wax or a little more aggressive some rubbing compound.
That should clean very well.
That should clean very well.
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+1 on clean and wax.
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I got it with much of the Catalog Spec. Missing a wheel, the rear rim is an Ambrosio Elite,
the FW is a Suntour 13/28 and obviously the saddle.
First concern is the preservation of the decals. I'm looking for advice on removing some
oxidation while not harming the graphics and preserving the graphics from the abuse of normal riding and handling.
the FW is a Suntour 13/28 and obviously the saddle.
First concern is the preservation of the decals. I'm looking for advice on removing some
oxidation while not harming the graphics and preserving the graphics from the abuse of normal riding and handling.
WD40 is pretty good for general bike cleaning. It's pretty much all we used when I worked in bike shops BITD. Before sealed bearings, anything with water in it was considered a no no. Whatever you use, test on a small spot first.
A very mild compound like Meguiars 17 "plastic cleaner" should be enough to remove surface oxidation and bring up the shine without harming the decals. Follow with wax.
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I did this on a '58 Lenton recently, and it turned out well. Also just did it on this Stella. But the whole thing is much more labor and time intensive than cleaning and waxing.
The paint itself is a remarkable advance for us home project painters, and dries to a very hard, clear, glossy finish that is almost as durable as Imron. You buy it at an automotive paints place, or online. You want the "Clear Glamour" version. One can is just about the right amount for a frame and fork, or maybe a frame and two forks if you're doing another project at the same time.
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.^^^^
...addendum: if you do decide to do this, mask off the chrome. In my experience it is a mistake to put a clear finish like this over polished chrome. It seems to adhere pretty well to older paint surfaces that are securely bonded to the underlying surface, but there will probably be some problems getting it to adhere well to polished chrome. Not right away, probably, but somewhere down the line.
...addendum: if you do decide to do this, mask off the chrome. In my experience it is a mistake to put a clear finish like this over polished chrome. It seems to adhere pretty well to older paint surfaces that are securely bonded to the underlying surface, but there will probably be some problems getting it to adhere well to polished chrome. Not right away, probably, but somewhere down the line.
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I like bronze wool followd by simichrome to clean and polish chrome. Treat with rust remover first if necessary.
I personally would not clear over the paint. I can see the practical arguments, but to me it just ruins the vintage look. I prefer restorations that are reversible. Just my preference.
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I removed everything but the fixed cup, then washed and waxed trying to be careful with the decals. Man, those things are delicate. I used nail polish on part of the 531 but it is too thick. I plan to brush on some reconstituted spray lacquer to protect the decals and touch up the scrapes with Testors.
Wish I could replace the pads and keep the holders.
531!
How hard is it to put on a sticker?
Wish I could replace the pads and keep the holders.
531!
How hard is it to put on a sticker?
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To the OP: be careful putting reconstituted lacquer over those decals. It's a good test of just how "fragile" they are. The solvents in lacquer paints can bubble them a little, and it happens faster than you can say, "Awwww, crap."
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the zip ties must go
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They are placeholders.
I only have two of the Weinmann clips and they will go on when I get brake lever hoods and new cables.
I'm troubled by the Campy 626a. How low should the guide be positioned. Should that little tab rest against the BB.The front derailleur cable hits the seat tube.
I only have two of the Weinmann clips and they will go on when I get brake lever hoods and new cables.
I'm troubled by the Campy 626a. How low should the guide be positioned. Should that little tab rest against the BB.The front derailleur cable hits the seat tube.
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...the fragility of lacquer paints is why I end up doing a lot of my repaints anyway. I'm one of those, "Why would god give me Imron if he didn't want me to use it ?" people. I think maybe I developed this method of painting as an outflow of my prior experience with art glass. We pretty much clear cased over everything as a final layer, so to my eye it looks swell.
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Those front brake pad holders look the business for mountain descending, cooling fins.
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...I'm pretty sure those are the bonded pads with heat fins that everyone tossed out when there were some reports of adhesive failures at the pad/finned holder interface. I forget the name, and I could be wrong. I have some I've been afraid to use after I removed them from a project bike.
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Matthauser brake pads. I would keep 'em just for show.
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...I'm pretty sure those are the bonded pads with heat fins that everyone tossed out when there were some reports of adhesive failures at the pad/finned holder interface. I forget the name, and I could be wrong. I have some I've been afraid to use after I removed them from a project bike.
Wow, I was just sort of kidding about the cooling. That really was a thing?
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I have literally had smoke coming off my front brake two years in a row when I overcooked a horsebend turn during a descent at the Tour De Park City. Felt like an idiot doing the same stupid thing on the same turn because I forgot, LOL!
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FWIW it's Yokozuna that makes the current licensed version of the Scott Mathauser 'superbrake' pads.
Yokozuna Premium Cables, Housing and Brake Pads
These have inserted not glued on pads so they are more safe than the original.
It's usually been argued that the insulating properties of the rubber pad made the fins irrelevant. I'm not sure that's entirely true, but it's mostly true. The rim itself is the main heat sink, by far.
FWIW. Some vendors still have the identical looking but Scott-Mathauser branded modernized superbrake pads. Not sure if that's NOS, what the deal is between them and Yokozuna, or if they are still making them in Oregon or wherever it was.
Yokozuna Premium Cables, Housing and Brake Pads
These have inserted not glued on pads so they are more safe than the original.
It's usually been argued that the insulating properties of the rubber pad made the fins irrelevant. I'm not sure that's entirely true, but it's mostly true. The rim itself is the main heat sink, by far.
FWIW. Some vendors still have the identical looking but Scott-Mathauser branded modernized superbrake pads. Not sure if that's NOS, what the deal is between them and Yokozuna, or if they are still making them in Oregon or wherever it was.
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Still needs new brake blocks.
Just about done..
Just about done..
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Looks great!!!
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I found what appear to be the proper brake blocks with plenty of life remaining.
Not very dry X-brake pads.
For wheels-- I had a Record front hub and an Araya rim to put together with salvaged spokes and nipples. It matches pretty nicely with the Nuovo Tipo rear hub and the Ambrosio rim that came with the bike. Whoever built that rear wheel, must have used the same length spokes for both sides. I've never had to pull a rim so far for a proper dish. The Ambrosio 19 rim is pretty cool and I wish I knew the story about how it came to be on the Raleigh. It has a bit of a flat spot and it's not true to the .5mm but the tension should keep it stable. I happened upon a 14/22 FW which matches the Raleigh catalog. This one is a Regina but the catalog doesn't specify.
Not yet ready to trust these wheels to Paso Robles and back.
Catalog spec 14/22 for EroicaCA?
Not very dry X-brake pads.
For wheels-- I had a Record front hub and an Araya rim to put together with salvaged spokes and nipples. It matches pretty nicely with the Nuovo Tipo rear hub and the Ambrosio rim that came with the bike. Whoever built that rear wheel, must have used the same length spokes for both sides. I've never had to pull a rim so far for a proper dish. The Ambrosio 19 rim is pretty cool and I wish I knew the story about how it came to be on the Raleigh. It has a bit of a flat spot and it's not true to the .5mm but the tension should keep it stable. I happened upon a 14/22 FW which matches the Raleigh catalog. This one is a Regina but the catalog doesn't specify.
Not yet ready to trust these wheels to Paso Robles and back.
Catalog spec 14/22 for EroicaCA?
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Great bikes, you will love it. I bought one a 1977 that was never ridden from the original owner about five years ago and it gets a lot of use. I take it into my workshop and clean/ wax it a couple of times a year. I just performed this maintenance and rode it Sunday.
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Thanks for the stroll down memory lane!
In 1981 I bought a Competition GS from a friend. LOVED that bike.
Then life changes had the bike hanging in the garage, unbidden, for about ten years. Occasionally I’d look at it and be depressed that I didn’t have time to ride. Finally I took it back to the shop where it had been bought and said “here, John. Keep it, sell it, give it away. It deserves better than hanging in the garage.” Don’t know what ever became of it.
Still remember it fondly.
In 1981 I bought a Competition GS from a friend. LOVED that bike.
Then life changes had the bike hanging in the garage, unbidden, for about ten years. Occasionally I’d look at it and be depressed that I didn’t have time to ride. Finally I took it back to the shop where it had been bought and said “here, John. Keep it, sell it, give it away. It deserves better than hanging in the garage.” Don’t know what ever became of it.
Still remember it fondly.