2016 Kona Rove
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2016 Kona Rove
Looking at this bike makes me think that it is a pretty good value -
Disc brakes, Sram Rival 1x11, "lightweight steel," all for $1600.
Any other all-purpose/ light touring bikes in this range? All-City Macho Man Disc at $1500 is a good comparison but drivetrain is 2x10 Shimano 105.
Anyone own one? Reviews?
Disc brakes, Sram Rival 1x11, "lightweight steel," all for $1600.
Any other all-purpose/ light touring bikes in this range? All-City Macho Man Disc at $1500 is a good comparison but drivetrain is 2x10 Shimano 105.
Anyone own one? Reviews?
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Kona seems to make well-equipped bikes. But what are they thinking with the 1 x 11 drivetrains on touring bikes (Sutra LTD, Rove ST)?
The Sutra LTD has a 24 inch low gear, which isn't low enough for loaded touring (22 or lower, usually).
The Rove ST has a 30 inch low gear. Have fun riding that up steep grades, even without a load.
The Macho Man doesn't have very low gearing, either. The 11-28 rear cassette gives it a 35 inch low gear. Dumb. FYI, it's 2 x 11 Shimano 105 this year.
If you're a pretty strong rider, then either of these bikes could work as an aggressive all-rounder. But you'll be wanting lower gears if you intend to tour.
The Rove ST with a 46/30 crank (22.5 inch low gear) or even just a 50/34 (26 inch low gear) would be way better than the single 40t chainring it has.
Otherwise, my impression of the Kona bikes is that they have somewhat aggressive geometry, like a cyclocross race bike; they have low front ends which makes for an aggressive riding posture. The frames at least have plenty of eyelets for racks and such. It should make a good all-rounder / light tourer with a subcompact or compact double crank and a riser stem.
1 x 11 has its place on MTBs and 'Cross bikes that are OK with limited gearing, and benefit from the simplicity of no front derailer because of muddy conditions.
The Sutra LTD has a 24 inch low gear, which isn't low enough for loaded touring (22 or lower, usually).
The Rove ST has a 30 inch low gear. Have fun riding that up steep grades, even without a load.
The Macho Man doesn't have very low gearing, either. The 11-28 rear cassette gives it a 35 inch low gear. Dumb. FYI, it's 2 x 11 Shimano 105 this year.
If you're a pretty strong rider, then either of these bikes could work as an aggressive all-rounder. But you'll be wanting lower gears if you intend to tour.
The Rove ST with a 46/30 crank (22.5 inch low gear) or even just a 50/34 (26 inch low gear) would be way better than the single 40t chainring it has.
Otherwise, my impression of the Kona bikes is that they have somewhat aggressive geometry, like a cyclocross race bike; they have low front ends which makes for an aggressive riding posture. The frames at least have plenty of eyelets for racks and such. It should make a good all-rounder / light tourer with a subcompact or compact double crank and a riser stem.
1 x 11 has its place on MTBs and 'Cross bikes that are OK with limited gearing, and benefit from the simplicity of no front derailer because of muddy conditions.
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Looking at this bike makes me think that it is a pretty good value -
Disc brakes, Sram Rival 1x11, "lightweight steel," all for $1600.
Any other all-purpose/ light touring bikes in this range? All-City Macho Man Disc at $1500 is a good comparison but drivetrain is 2x10 Shimano 105.
Anyone own one? Reviews?
Disc brakes, Sram Rival 1x11, "lightweight steel," all for $1600.
Any other all-purpose/ light touring bikes in this range? All-City Macho Man Disc at $1500 is a good comparison but drivetrain is 2x10 Shimano 105.
Anyone own one? Reviews?
I'm a major fan of Kona. I would say that the Rove AL is the descendant of the Dew Drop, this is my 2009 Dew Drop:
My Kona has over 13,000 miles, it has been a daily commuter, touring bike, gravel grinder, and joy ride bike. I have worked this bike HARD and it has always preformed - it's bomb-proof. I've done three gravel centuries with this Kona without one mechanical. Quality parts on the bike, outside of wear items, I just replaced the front wheel earlier this year, the saddle last summer, I've upgraded brakes & rotors, and I've bent two rear rims.... otherwise this bike is most showroom components.
I can't advise on the 2015 Kona products, but based on my experience, I would get another Kona in a flash!
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1X Gearing for Touring
@ Tim_Iowa: I generally agree with your assessment of the gearing for touring. All the bike manufacturers these days have neglected low gearing needed for serious hills and touring.
However I will note that the Kona Sutra LTD comes with 1X, and a Race Face crank with direct mount chainrings. The LTD is stock with a 36T chainring, but with direct mount, it is easy to swap to a 34T or 32T chainring, if you like. With the stock 36T, the gearing is 23.9 gear-inches, the 34T would provide 22.6 and the 32T would offer 21.2. Yes, you lose some top end speed with 1X, but the 420% range of a 10-42 cog set is fairly wide and I don't see the loss of the top end as a big deal - especially if your situation is one requiring the low gearing.
The LTD also comes with the braze-ons to convert to 2X, should your needs change or the drive train manufacturers begin to produce 2X road drive trains offering low gearing.
However I will note that the Kona Sutra LTD comes with 1X, and a Race Face crank with direct mount chainrings. The LTD is stock with a 36T chainring, but with direct mount, it is easy to swap to a 34T or 32T chainring, if you like. With the stock 36T, the gearing is 23.9 gear-inches, the 34T would provide 22.6 and the 32T would offer 21.2. Yes, you lose some top end speed with 1X, but the 420% range of a 10-42 cog set is fairly wide and I don't see the loss of the top end as a big deal - especially if your situation is one requiring the low gearing.
The LTD also comes with the braze-ons to convert to 2X, should your needs change or the drive train manufacturers begin to produce 2X road drive trains offering low gearing.
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I am in the market for Rove AL right now. The 1x doesn't make sense to me either on the steel. I plan on taking out the crank and putting in a SRAM Apex crank to use with my PM for the AL.
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I like the color; has some nice braze-ons; might be fine for a strong rider w/light luggage even w/stock gearing. OTOH if you're riding in Utah, wouldn't low gearing give more flexibility? Jeez, last year I heard that Salt Lake City had skiing within 30 minute drive, I'm totally jealous. One could even do this: