What's better? Fuji Sport or Trek?
07-23-15, 09:22 AM
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Wait, one person on here has said that Fuji is too cheap to buy, because they had a bad experience with their Fuji. There are 4 or 5 people on here that are saying that they have a Fuji, and it is a great bike. If you discounted every bike branc because of one person that had a bad experience with the brand, then you wouldn't be able to buy a bike.
All those of us who have Fuji's are saying is to include it in your road tests, with other brands such as Trek, Specialized, Cannondale, Giant, Raleigh, etc.
It sounds like one of two things: 1. You either made up your mind to buy the Trek based on marketing, since you haven't test ridden any bikes. or 2. You're Alias530 with a different userid, that started this thread just so you could bash Fuji. If you're not, then I don't understand why you're listening to him more than 4 or 5 other people that are saying that an intro Fuji bike is just as good as an intro Trek bike.
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All those of us who have Fuji's are saying is to include it in your road tests, with other brands such as Trek, Specialized, Cannondale, Giant, Raleigh, etc.
It sounds like one of two things: 1. You either made up your mind to buy the Trek based on marketing, since you haven't test ridden any bikes. or 2. You're Alias530 with a different userid, that started this thread just so you could bash Fuji. If you're not, then I don't understand why you're listening to him more than 4 or 5 other people that are saying that an intro Fuji bike is just as good as an intro Trek bike.
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07-23-15, 09:26 AM
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Because a comparable build was 3lbs heavier than the Trek I'm on and it rode like crap by comparison. Seriously you people who are saying Fuji is so great, have you owned a higher end bike? Are you even in a position to comment? Or do you just have a low income and you do everything you can to convince yourself that your Fuji is "good enough"?
07-23-15, 09:41 AM
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I own a Trek, never ridden a Fuji. Was the 3lbs due to the frame? What was 'comparable' in the build? Btw, I think we were trying to compare similarly priced bicycles here, not 'higher end' versus 'low income' bicycles. You say these are (some of) the qualities that make a frame better:
Do you have a way to quantify the difference between two similarly priced frames from Trek and Fuji in any of these categories?
I understand you owned a Fuji and now own a Trek, and that you find your Trek a much better bike. Your experience and opinion are valuable to the OP. However, when you begin claiming your experience as 'facts', you might be asked to back those facts up.
I understand you owned a Fuji and now own a Trek, and that you find your Trek a much better bike. Your experience and opinion are valuable to the OP. However, when you begin claiming your experience as 'facts', you might be asked to back those facts up.
07-23-15, 09:47 AM
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Because a comparable build was 3lbs heavier than the Trek I'm on and it rode like crap by comparison. Seriously you people who are saying Fuji is so great, have you owned a higher end bike? Are you even in a position to comment? Or do you just have a low income and you do everything you can to convince yourself that your Fuji is "good enough"?
07-23-15, 10:09 AM
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Sure, and like I said I know cat 1 racers who have raced bikes like Supersix and TCRs and open mold Chinese frames that cost 1/5 the price and they can't tell the difference. Trek's R&D eventually trickles down to Fuji and to the chinese factories that actually make Trek's bikes and then make their own frames
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Because a comparable build was 3lbs heavier than the Trek I'm on and it rode like crap by comparison. Seriously you people who are saying Fuji is so great, have you owned a higher end bike? Are you even in a position to comment? Or do you just have a low income and you do everything you can to convince yourself that your Fuji is "good enough"?
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Sure, and like I said I know cat 1 racers who have raced bikes like Supersix and TCRs and open mold Chinese frames that cost 1/5 the price and they can't tell the difference. Trek's R&D eventually trickles down to Fuji and to the chinese factories that actually make Trek's bikes and then make their own frames
here's an article comparing chinese frames to real ones
Not all frames are created equal. A look deep inside the carbon in counterfeit bikes - VeloNews.com
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You're confusing me with someone else, I had no defect. It just had too many junky parts for how expensive it was and it's misleading to beginners (myself at the time of purchase) to advertise it as an Ultegra bike but only 3 of 8 groupset components are actually Ultegra.
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this alias530 kid has a screw loose. i actually feel sorry for him. if he's an adult i feel even more sorry for him.
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I own a Trek, never ridden a Fuji. Was the 3lbs due to the frame? What was 'comparable' in the build? Btw, I think we were trying to compare similarly priced bicycles here, not 'higher end' versus 'low income' bicycles. You say these are (some of) the qualities that make a frame better:
Do you have a way to quantify the difference between two similarly priced frames from Trek and Fuji in any of these categories?
I understand you owned a Fuji and now own a Trek, and that you find your Trek a much better bike. Your experience and opinion are valuable to the OP. However, when you begin claiming your experience as 'facts', you might be asked to back those facts up.
Do you have a way to quantify the difference between two similarly priced frames from Trek and Fuji in any of these categories?
I understand you owned a Fuji and now own a Trek, and that you find your Trek a much better bike. Your experience and opinion are valuable to the OP. However, when you begin claiming your experience as 'facts', you might be asked to back those facts up.
The Fuji was an Ultegra build, this is a Dura Ace build. The bikes are actually 5lbs different so I was being more than generous by calling it 3lbs. Dura Ace vs Ultegra is only 1/2lb specific to the groupset so when you account for that it's 4.5lbs different. 1lb is in the wheels. The remaining 3.5lbs is frame and cockpit stuff. I'm on the same exact saddle and tires.
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You probably also think that anyone who prefers mobile devices running Android are too poor to afford iOS devices. According to your logic, you also probably pontificate dogmatically that Apple is the best since it costs more. After all, there must be a reason why Android devices costs less, and "it's not because they're feeling generous."
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McDonald's exists too, for those who can't tell a difference between that and a good burger.
here's an article comparing chinese frames to real ones
Not all frames are created equal. A look deep inside the carbon in counterfeit bikes - VeloNews.com
here's an article comparing chinese frames to real ones
Not all frames are created equal. A look deep inside the carbon in counterfeit bikes - VeloNews.com
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Yup - and this forum needed a jester, a la Donald Trump.
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You're confusing me with someone else, I had no defect. It just had too many junky parts for how expensive it was and it's misleading to beginners (myself at the time of purchase) to advertise it as an Ultegra bike but only 3 of 8 groupset components are actually Ultegra.
Oh hey, what's this? Spesh only hits 3 of 8 on their Rival bike:
Specialized Bicycle Components
And the previous Tarmac I linked only had 105 shifters and the RD.
This bike retails for $3,500. It has a lower tiered cassette and tons of in house components including the saddle, which according to this review is a total asshatchet. OMG SO MUCH JUNKY STUFF WHY CAN'T I HAVE NICE THINGS?!!??
Scott Addict 20 review - BikeRadar USA
07-23-15, 12:14 PM
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You're confusing me with someone else, I had no defect. It just had too many junky parts for how expensive it was and it's misleading to beginners (myself at the time of purchase) to advertise it as an Ultegra bike but only 3 of 8 groupset components are actually Ultegra.
07-23-15, 12:14 PM
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Alias350 I really really appreciate your candor. I understand that there are a lot of Fuji Owners in this thread, and rightfully so. Everyone will always say their bike is the best. But you have inside information on both brands and I respect that. If they like their bike that is good, but for my particular case, I think you understand what I'm looking for.
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You're being hilariously obtuse here.
Oh hey, what's this? Spesh only hits 3 of 8 on their Rival bike:
Specialized Bicycle Components
And the previous Tarmac I linked only had 105 shifters and the RD.
This bike retails for $3,500. It has a lower tiered cassette and tons of in house components including the saddle, which according to this review is a total asshatchet. OMG SO MUCH JUNKY STUFF WHY CAN'T I HAVE NICE THINGS?!!??
Scott Addict 20 review - BikeRadar USA
Oh hey, what's this? Spesh only hits 3 of 8 on their Rival bike:
Specialized Bicycle Components
And the previous Tarmac I linked only had 105 shifters and the RD.
This bike retails for $3,500. It has a lower tiered cassette and tons of in house components including the saddle, which according to this review is a total asshatchet. OMG SO MUCH JUNKY STUFF WHY CAN'T I HAVE NICE THINGS?!!??
Scott Addict 20 review - BikeRadar USA
At the Ultegra level, it's pretty weak to advertise it as an ultegra bike when less than half of it is such.
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Alias350 I really really appreciate your candor. I understand that there are a lot of Fuji Owners in this thread, and rightfully so. Everyone will always say their bike is the best. But you have inside information on both brands and I respect that. If they like their bike that is good, but for my particular case, I think you understand what I'm looking for.
