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Old 03-19-19, 12:49 PM
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Wow , it's WaveCel ! What happened to the Graphene ?
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Old 03-19-19, 01:31 PM
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They copied the Smith Koroyd which has been around for years.

Even copied the color.

https://www.smithoptics.com/us/koroyd

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Old 03-19-19, 01:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Darth Lefty
I wish they had a $150 MTB variant. I'm in the market but...
Smith has had one for years.

https://www.smithoptics.com/us/forefront

They can be found for way less than $150.


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Old 03-19-19, 01:59 PM
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Shimano's great new thing is to make us all more scared about riding. Offering a new and supposedly more protective helmet? They would get some more props from me for announcing the Shimano "Safe cycling roads" and working with cities all over the world to build better cycling infrastructure. I guess that doesn't make them any more money, despite the ongoing death toll. Sigh.
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Old 03-19-19, 02:10 PM
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Originally Posted by TimothyH
Smith has had one for years.

https://www.smithoptics.com/us/forefront
They both have two all-beef patties, special sauce, lettuce, cheese, pickles and onions. The difference is that Smith's shell has seeds. Trek's shell has no seeds.
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Old 03-19-19, 02:13 PM
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Will this inspire a new generation of Wave(ing) threads?
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Old 03-19-19, 02:23 PM
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Originally Posted by badger1
Will this inspire a new generation of Wave(ing) threads?
One can only hope. They are pure entertainment.
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Old 03-19-19, 05:37 PM
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I gotta say the earth shattering announcement was far less impactful than I anticipated. If it weren’t for this thread I would have never noticed it. In fact I’d probably see one of those helmets when they eventually make it to LBS shelves (or now sadly REI) and think “hey now Trek is copying Smiths”
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Old 03-19-19, 05:52 PM
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Originally Posted by wipekitty
Lame. I was seriously looking forward to my crash-proof flying bicycle.
I was hoping for a bicycle that is powered by farts. I could be doing centuries this weekend!
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Old 03-19-19, 05:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Joe Bikerider
Shimano's great new thing is to make us all more scared about riding. Offering a new and supposedly more protective helmet? They would get some more props from me for announcing the Shimano "Safe cycling roads" and working with cities all over the world to build better cycling infrastructure. I guess that doesn't make them any more money, despite the ongoing death toll. Sigh.
More scared? Crap, I missed the memo. I'm thinking you picked this up from Bikesnob, this one of his weakest attempts at humor and taking a helmet-less stance (I was into him when he was funny, remember the pie plate hating goose?). The airbags in my car don't make me more scared of driving, why should a superior helmet make me more scared of riding? Also, the whole "Shimano is evil because they just want to make money" thing has been played to death.
I'm so old I can remember when Trek was a cool company.
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Old 03-19-19, 06:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Joe Bikerider
Shimano's great new thing is to make us all more scared about riding. Offering a new and supposedly more protective helmet? They would get some more props from me for announcing the Shimano "Safe cycling roads" and working with cities all over the world to build better cycling infrastructure. I guess that doesn't make them any more money, despite the ongoing death toll. Sigh.
This thread is about Trek, not Shimano.


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Old 03-20-19, 08:47 AM
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Article in Popular Science explaining wavecel technology and how it differs from other helmets.
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Old 03-20-19, 09:11 AM
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Gee and ONLY $300. They must be nuts.
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Old 03-20-19, 09:15 AM
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Originally Posted by rydabent
Gee and ONLY $300. They must be nuts.
There are $150 versions.
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Old 03-20-19, 09:18 AM
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Originally Posted by TimothyH
This thread is about Trek, not Shimano.
So what?
This has become another helmet sales pitch thread, neither facts nor accuracy are required.
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Old 03-20-19, 09:26 AM
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Originally Posted by skookum
Article in Popular Science explaining wavecel technology and how it differs from other helmets.
Interesting, thanks for posting.
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Old 03-20-19, 11:54 AM
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Originally Posted by skookum
Article in Popular Science explaining wavecel technology and how it differs from other helmets.
Note: Clicking on this this Popular Science site installed over 100 cookies and it was still loading them when I cut it off. Luckily Firefox allows me to manage and delete such unwanted dreck from the computer.
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Old 03-20-19, 01:44 PM
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Originally Posted by TimothyH
This thread is about Trek, not Shimano.


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You mean I have to pay attention? As someone above said, I also can remember when Trek was cool. In fact sitting right in front of me is a beautiful blue Trek 1500 that I bought for my wife that is now in service for daughter number 3. Including Biopace!
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Old 03-20-19, 03:09 PM
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Keep in mind that Trek WaveTech isn't new or revolutionary.

Koroyd has been around for years. Smith has produced ski, skate and cycling helmets using Koroyd for at least 3 years.

https://koroyd.com/smith-koroyd-helmet-protection/


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Old 03-20-19, 03:11 PM
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I remember when there was NO Trek. How's that for OLD?
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I thought their announcement was going to be about bicycles.
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Old 03-20-19, 04:26 PM
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Originally Posted by TimothyH
Keep in mind that Trek WaveTech isn't new or revolutionary.

Koroyd has been around for years. Smith has produced ski, skate and cycling helmets using Koroyd for at least 3 years.

https://koroyd.com/smith-koroyd-helmet-protection/


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They are saying it is something different than koroyd, and of course they think it is better.
Bontrager is keen to distance WaveCel technology from the honeycomb shaped materials used in some helmets. That's presumably a reference to Koroyd, as used in Smith and Endura lids."[These materials] primarily address linear impacts to prevent skull fractures," says Bontrager. "These systems usually include a slip liner to the helmet to address rotational forces. WaveCel addresses both linear and angular impacts but also flexes to make a uniform dome shape that wraps mostly around the inside of the helmet."
I have no idea if it is any better, indeed I'd never even heard of koroyd until I started reading about helmets today. My gut feeling is that this is actually incremental change, not a great leap forward in cranial protection. Still it is good to see some new materials and progress in helmets. Time will tell how much of an improvement it is over conventional helmets.

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Old 03-20-19, 04:40 PM
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The direction Trek is taking could be huge for them if they can get a patent on the technology. Unlike the Smith Koroyd helmet that has a honeycomb pattern and is made for more linear impact this new WaveTech technology from Trek is a crucial advancement in concussion technology. If it really works and reduces the spin/shearing motion upon an angled fall they could change everything including football helmets, shin pads...I even see a military use if it's made from other materials like Kevlar.

Anyone that is poopoo'ing this may not remember when Bill Bowerman and Phil Knight started hawking running shoe soles they made with Bowerman's waffle maker from the back of their cars at track meets back in the mid 1970's. People thought they were nuts. When Bowerman's Oregon track team started to do really well the soles took off. They changed the running industry. We ended up with the Nike Corporation.


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This new product from Trek could be that big.

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