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Old 01-21-18, 03:38 PM
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Originally Posted by avole
No. you needed it in the title, as you well know. Also, the whole topic was ill-conceived. You Should have specified it only applied to a small part of the cycling world. There is a world outside the USA. High time you recognised that, as most people from your continent are well aware.
No reason the question shouldn't apply to Canada, UK (and adjoining islands), Australia, Gibraltar, India, Faulklands, and a few other primarily English speaking nations.

Also could be translated into any other language and still have meaning.
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Originally Posted by avole
Except that sign would not be acceptable in the UK, where peds has only one, unsavoury, meaning.
Peds???
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Originally Posted by CliffordK
No reason the question shouldn't apply to Canada, UK (and adjoining islands), Australia, Gibraltar, India, Faulklands, and a few other primarily English speaking nations.

Also could be translated into any other language and still have meaning.
I take it you are joking?
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Originally Posted by avole
I take it you are joking?
Why would that be a joke?

les vélos peuvent
utiliser la pleine voie
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Old 01-21-18, 06:08 PM
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Originally Posted by avole
I take it you are joking?
No reason similar signs (perhaps slightly different wording) couldn't be used elsewhere.

Except in the UK, they may encourage riders to stay left rather than staying right.

Machka @Machka has posted some wonderful bike signs from Down Under.
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Old 01-21-18, 06:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Ninety5rpm
Awesome!
Keep in mind that that is only one road (McKenzie Pass) that has heavy bicycle traffic. In fact, it is closed to cars this time of year, but they allow cyclists and pedestrians to hop the gate (at their own risk).

It is a tough hill climb, especially for those doing a century+ RT ride from Eugene, with a 20 mile climb in the middle of the ride. So, I'd agree that drivers should expect cyclists using the full lane. I just couldn't keep a narrow track.

Personally I would not put those signs up indiscriminately. Perhaps choose a few specific roads where there are quite a few cyclists, and poor or nonexistent road shoulders.

In town, sharrows should convey a similar message. Still, I believe in sharing the road, so letting cars pass whenever it is safe and convenient for all.

Perhaps a better sign would simply be "Bicycles on Roadway" without specifying where on the roadway.

In the Eugene area, Loraine HWY is popular among cyclists so more road markings would be appropriate, but I also presume all the locals know that it is popular among cyclists.

The McKenzie Pass above, gets many non-local drivers, so more road signs would also make sense.

Edit:
I went ahead and put my vote in... yes, there are a couple of signs on ONE road about 50 miles from my house. However, that is the only road I've noticed them on, and I believe it is a special case, and not necessarily general applicability.

There are more bicycles on roadway and bike route signs without the full lane signs.

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Old 01-21-18, 08:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Ninety5rpm
Why would that be a joke?

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Thanks for proving my poiny. so, your thread should be titled ... BMUFL and LVPULPV. Then, of course, you’d need to add the acronyms for Germany, Japan, Samoa, Belize etc. The best way, of course, is simply not to use an acronym

By the way, there seems to be a keyboard problem your end, or you are using a font my tablet doesn’t recognise.
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Old 01-22-18, 08:11 AM
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Originally Posted by avole
Except that sign would not be acceptable in the UK, where peds has only one, unsavoury, meaning.
..or where the right side is the on-coming lane.

And let's face it, we don't need to be told not to ride in the on-coming lane here. Though a bit of 'natural selection' never hurt anyone.
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Old 01-23-18, 07:40 AM
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Originally Posted by CliffordK
...Machka @Machka has posted some wonderful bike signs from Down Under.
In fact, Machka has a thread of all kinds of Street Signs from all over the world. My contribution was this one in Toronto where cycles were granted free rein.
Originally Posted by cooker
Here's another look at Shaw St. in Toronto, not far from the spot shown by Jim from Boston. That's why the sign in his pic says "bicycles excepted" - there's a contraflow bike lane on an otherwise one-way street. Since we're talking about signs, it's interesting that they a put a speed-bump warning sign up even for the cyclists heading north. Another sign of sorts, is the sharrow endorsing southbound cyclists taking the lane.
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Old 01-23-18, 07:53 AM
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I have one of these signs I've noticed in my area and it's the only Sharrow I know of in Jacksonville. However, it's kind of funny because the section of road in question is only about a block long where this sign/Sharrow is in effect. The rest of the road has a bike lane.

The only reason this area is a sharrow is because it's sandwiched between a bunch of stores/restaurants, so the speed limit is dropped down to 15-mph. This area is in Jacksonville Beach https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jackso...Beach,_Florida, along 1st street N.

P.S./A little Trivia: Jacksonville is the largest city (area wise) in the lower 48, at just under 875 sq/miles. So maybe there are other areas I haven't seen, but a lot of Jacksonville is also open land, so probably not that many other areas that have sharrows...
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Old 01-24-18, 03:46 PM
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We don't have BMUFL signs, but we do have these here and there:

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Old 01-24-18, 10:37 PM
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I'm in a rural yet growing area. We need signs but more importantly we need the car eating potholes to be fixed. Tarrant count could care less
(Fort Worth)
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Originally Posted by mr_bill
And English too. My favorite sign - ever.

I can't even get Googoo to focus on what ever the sign is. Mind filling us nt?
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Old 01-24-18, 11:23 PM
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Originally Posted by ggoytia1
I'm in a rural yet growing area. We need signs but more importantly we need the car eating potholes to be fixed. Tarrant count could care less
(Fort Worth)
Are car eating potholes a problem?

Do they eat bicycles too?
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Old 01-24-18, 11:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Rollfast
I can't even get Googoo to focus on what ever the sign is. Mind filling us nt?


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Old 01-24-18, 11:43 PM
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They must not care about that anymore, it only lacks graffiti and bullet holes to show it's true age.
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Lol. We could lay a small motorcycle on its side and still be enough to need a few inches to be flush with the road.



Originally Posted by CliffordK
Are car eating potholes a problem?

Do they eat bicycles too?
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Old 01-25-18, 11:02 AM
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None in my state. NY State DOT refuses to think they're a good idea and prohibits their use in their addendum to the MUTCD.
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Old 01-25-18, 11:34 AM
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Originally Posted by avole
Thanks for proving my poiny. so, your thread should be titled ... BMUFL and LVPULPV. Then, of course, you’d need to add the acronyms for Germany, Japan, Samoa, Belize etc. The best way, of course, is simply not to use an acronym

By the way, there seems to be a keyboard problem your end, or you are using a font my tablet doesn’t recognise.
Maybe the "problem" is at your end. Besides not recognizing fonts that other posters have no problem seeing, and apparently no spelling or grammar checker, does it also not have the ability to allow an inquiring reader, new to A&S/BF, to look up almost any unfamiliar acronym on Google with just a click or tap?
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Originally Posted by avole
NWBILIF.

Dumb poll. I voted no, since this applies only to the USA, and American English is not spoken where I live.

You should also define your acronyms before using them, particularly, as is the case here, if they are not in common usage.
It can't have escaped your notice that you are posting in an English speaking and N.A. centric forum. Is this an example of what you people (sorry) call "ennui"? Come on, go against type. You are an ambassador. A&S is un endroit difficile at the best of times. Cut the inmates some slack, why not?
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Old 01-28-18, 07:27 PM
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Originally Posted by benjdm
None in my state. NY State DOT refuses to think they're a good idea and prohibits their use in their addendum to the MUTCD.
Frankly, it's a bit surprising that this attitude is limited to a few states like NY. That most other states are rejecting that attitude and putting up the BMUFL signs is a big OFFICIAL BLACK AND WHITE slap in the face to anyone who who believes bicyclists don't belong on the roads in the way of motorists.

It's a great message and is only beginning to transform societal attitudes.
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I still subscribe to the bike < car < semi < locomotive school of thought and make sure we all know we're there.


It has nothing much to do with social engineering, I learned it in physical science lessons.


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