eduskator

Yes WhyFi, let us know! Are you currently using the previous gen? I would be curious to see if the Addix are really narrower as I'm still undecided if I risk buying 28mm for my TCR or if I stick with good ol' 25mm.

I see that members recommended Orange over Stans, but I heard this product lasted way less than the other sealant. Is that true?

Orange = Regular : up to 45 days, Endurange : 30-60 days
Stans = Regular : 2 to 7 months, Race : inspect every 2 weeks (??)

ronopolis

Yikes. That is a huge difference.

ronopolis

OP here. Is there any suggested UST tire I should try besides buying my fourth Yksion? I am definitely going to switch sealant, but wondering if there is a more durable tire. One thing I like about the Ksyrium UST / Yksion combo is it just works. My first tubeless and I had zero issues installing, no leaks.

eduskator

I would also be interested to know if and how often a cyclist should perform full maintenance of his TL tires (unmount, clean & remove dried up sealant, remount & put fresh sealant)?

Some of us will say never since the tire will wear out before needing this, but some riders do not ride much and they can go through a set of tire every 2-3 years instead of 6-12 months. I can only imagine how heavy and thick can the dried up sealant become inside the tire if a person needs to refill it so frequently.

WhyFi

We've already got one thread that has morphed into to a tubeless catch-all - why not discuss there and keep this thread more relevant to the OP while keeping the general stuff in one place?

79pmooney

Ronopolis, no need to say "OP here". "Thread Starter" is right under your name. Welcome! Hope to see you around.

I'm not commenting in this thread because I"m still dealing with tubes and flats. (Mavic Open and Velocity Aero rims, Paselas and Vittoria Open Paves and G+. When the rims die (all rim braked) I'll go back to tubulars which I rode for 2 decades. Light. fun and high speed blowouts aren't a big deal - except to the wallet.)

Ben

WhyFi

This is one of the reasons that I've been put-off by Mavic tubeless options - they're very explicit in saying that you should not use any non-UST tires... and no other manufacturers are making UST-spec tires, so you're stuck with their brand of tires unless you want to go off-script.

Some new tires, like the Schwalbe Pro 1 Addix, supposedly match the new, but unreleased ETRTO tubeless spec. That tubeless spec is supposedly based on the UST spec, so they *might* be a good match. You could do a search to see if other Mavic wheel owners have tried them or any other free-range tubeless tires out there, but I have a feeling that most have stuck with Mavic.

Sy Reene

Yeah.. bizarre that this UST "standard" was put out by 3 manufacturers together (Mavic, Michelin and Hutchinson).. yet Mavic is the only one making UST tires? Curiously, Mavic's role in this triumvirate was to provide the rim design, and other 2 companies provided the tire/bead construction expertise.

EDIT: Found this article.. interesting.. Anyone tried the Michelin Power Road tubeless tire?
https://www.bikeradar.com/news/miche...ess-road-tyre/

Princess_Allez

My most recent tire replacement was due to a slice that was just barely small enough to seal, but large enough to continually unseal and spew sealant. I tried riding it 3-4x after the slice, but I got tired of having sealant all over my shoes, socks and legs. I would check pressure loss at the end of each ride, and it was only 2-4psi.

The replacement tire would not seal to the rim; I tried using a co2 catridge. I took it to my lbs and it took them 20-30mins to get the job done. They tried all the tricks and it wasn't seating. They said they've run into this type of issue before with TL, but this was their first time experiencing it with a Mavic wheel/tire; don't believe the UST hype

If anyone has a TL tire suggestion that's similar in dimension and compound (or better) than the Yksion, I'm all ears.

tomato coupe

Been there, done that ... multiple times.

fried bake

Can’t speak to durability with only 85 miles ridden, but I mounted 30!mm Schwalbe Pro One relatively easily on a disc Aksium UST with 19 ID rim. As it turns out, Merlin’s sale price was on the previous model, so I’m riding the previous generation TLE.

alandmor

Sounds a bit like my experience with the same rims, tires, sealant.
https://www.bikeforums.net/bicycle-m...-000-cuts.html

bruce19

Mavic UST wheels and tires were designed as a system with very fine tolerances which is why they are easy to mount and inflate. I recently had a conversation with a rep from Competitive Cyclist who is a long time MB and, now, road tubeless guy. He suggested, and I bought, Vittoria Corsa Graphene 2.0 tires. My Yksion tires show no sign of significant wear. But, when it's time to replace I guess I'll find out if they are as easy to mount and inflate. He also said he runs his tires until he sees that they are deflating more than usual and then he renews the sealant.