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Before you spend money, go for a ride with all the wrenches to adjust seat position, height, tip and fore and aft. See if you can make your symptoms go away. (This may put you seat in a poor place for overall position but you will have learned a key point, what works for "down there".)
When you get a new seat, you should do the same rides with the wrenches. A huge benefit to getting seat position dialed in right is a 2-bolt seatpost with a front and a rear bolt. Makes accurate seat tilt changes easy. Undoing a change you didn't like to exactly where you were before is just as easy. Seat position, just as much as the seats themselves<is critical to bike comfort.
For the vast majority of us, when we are comfortable, we are doing no damage. Find that comfortable place and ride.
When you get a new seat, you should do the same rides with the wrenches. A huge benefit to getting seat position dialed in right is a 2-bolt seatpost with a front and a rear bolt. Makes accurate seat tilt changes easy. Undoing a change you didn't like to exactly where you were before is just as easy. Seat position, just as much as the seats themselves<is critical to bike comfort.
For the vast majority of us, when we are comfortable, we are doing no damage. Find that comfortable place and ride.
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Just a P.S.A. about the standard/typical 12 to 16 core TRUS biopsy >>>>
The TRUS biopsy often performed by a Urologist in office is an outdated method that samples very little of the prostate resulting in missed PCa. (Prostate Cancer) There is a push for new SOC (Standard of Care) protocols of having a 3TmpMRI and/or new urine sampling/genetic testing to be not only FDA approved but additionally insurance covered. Also for the Ga-68 PSMA and 18F DCFPyL PSMA to be FDA Approved/Insurance Approved as it is throughout the World but not in the USA. Indeed a VERY SAD commentary regarding Men's Health.
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I started to experience numbness at around age 50. I got sized and learned out that for a slender guy - 6' 3", 180 lbs. - I have wide sit bones so a Specialized saddle in the appropriate width and with a center channel did fine for a while. Last season that got replaced with a Brooks C17 "carved" for my fast bike, and on my rough roads bike I mounted a Brooks Flyer which was super comfortable but still created numbing. It was modded by a Forum member with the Brooks Imperial cutout and voila! Occasionally I experience a bit of numbing from long stretches in the saddle, but a brief position shift clears it. I've never had numbness linger post-ride and I'd like to keep it that way.
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Interesting there is no discussion regarding the ISM PL series of saddles. Granted they are very strange, if not weird looking, but if they work for a majority of these issues... Besides no one will know unless you are off the bike. Have been emailing with a rep from ISM.
My issue is not numbness or ED but urination urgency which hits out of no where. I have got to go NOW! It is very disconcerting because you never know when it will hit or where. Have to make sure to go before I go anywhere for insurance. On long rides, I have to scout bushes and trees even for small amounts. Will try ISM and report back.
My issue is not numbness or ED but urination urgency which hits out of no where. I have got to go NOW! It is very disconcerting because you never know when it will hit or where. Have to make sure to go before I go anywhere for insurance. On long rides, I have to scout bushes and trees even for small amounts. Will try ISM and report back.
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Interesting there is no discussion regarding the ISM PL series of saddles. Granted they are very strange, if not weird looking, but if they work for a majority of these issues... Besides no one will know unless you are off the bike. Have been emailing with a rep from ISM.
My issue is not numbness or ED but urination urgency which hits out of no where. I have got to go NOW! It is very disconcerting because you never know when it will hit or where. Have to make sure to go before I go anywhere for insurance. On long rides, I have to scout bushes and trees even for small amounts. Will try ISM and report back.
My issue is not numbness or ED but urination urgency which hits out of no where. I have got to go NOW! It is very disconcerting because you never know when it will hit or where. Have to make sure to go before I go anywhere for insurance. On long rides, I have to scout bushes and trees even for small amounts. Will try ISM and report back.
I've been in a situation very much like you describe. My doc prescribed antibiotics for prostatitus and recommended taking a week or so off the bike, which I did. It initially cleared up well, but now with each ride of more than ~10 miles my symptoms will begin to return.
I borrowed as Adamo prologue yesterday in hopes that it might change things up a little. It didn't go well. What I found was the the wide nose of the Adamo seemed to put even more pressure on the sensitive area. The Adamo nose is about an inch wider than my Specialized Power saddle.
Btw, my sensitive area is more to the left side of my perineal area. I found some mild relief by rotating my power saddle several degrees to the right of center.
Best of luck to you......
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I'll be interested to hear what you think.
I've been in a situation very much like you describe. My doc prescribed antibiotics for prostatitus and recommended taking a week or so off the bike, which I did. It initially cleared up well, but now with each ride of more than ~10 miles my symptoms will begin to return.
I borrowed as Adamo prologue yesterday in hopes that it might change things up a little. It didn't go well. What I found was the the wide nose of the Adamo seemed to put even more pressure on the sensitive area. The Adamo nose is about an inch wider than my Specialized Power saddle.
Btw, my sensitive area is more to the left side of my perineal area. I found some mild relief by rotating my power saddle several degrees to the right of center.
Best of luck to you......
I've been in a situation very much like you describe. My doc prescribed antibiotics for prostatitus and recommended taking a week or so off the bike, which I did. It initially cleared up well, but now with each ride of more than ~10 miles my symptoms will begin to return.
I borrowed as Adamo prologue yesterday in hopes that it might change things up a little. It didn't go well. What I found was the the wide nose of the Adamo seemed to put even more pressure on the sensitive area. The Adamo nose is about an inch wider than my Specialized Power saddle.
Btw, my sensitive area is more to the left side of my perineal area. I found some mild relief by rotating my power saddle several degrees to the right of center.
Best of luck to you......
Thank you.
The new seat arrived today but it will take weeks to tell how and if it works so you will have to be patient.
A couple of years ago I stopped cycling and it took a couple of months off the saddle to clear up, so I don’t expect anything different. The complicating factor is that I just purchased one seat but have 3 bikes which I use regularly (road, trainer, mtn bike). Looks like I will have to try to stick to one with the new saddle. Hrumph
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I've used ISM PN1.1 (still very similar to PL, only shorter) for a couple of months.
My experience with the saddle is absolutely no numbing and may have even solved numbing on my hands. For reference, I never use gloves nor padded shorts, even for long rides.
One huge advantage of ISM PN (or PL for that matter) is that the saddle gives you a huge sitting position range. You can can sit on it at the widest part as well as on the nose. The default adjustment of ISM PN is have it to the maximum setback possible since you can sit on the nose anyhow.
Some of the bad things I found with ISM PN is that it is only comfortable in fully slammed down aero position. It's probably a limitation due to the Time Trial (TT) oriented design of the saddle. The other bad thing is being less comfortable in bumpy roads unless you have a compliant bike frame or seat tube or seatpost suspension. And finally, wide split nose design with shallow angle kinda rubs the thighs.
My experience with the saddle is absolutely no numbing and may have even solved numbing on my hands. For reference, I never use gloves nor padded shorts, even for long rides.
One huge advantage of ISM PN (or PL for that matter) is that the saddle gives you a huge sitting position range. You can can sit on it at the widest part as well as on the nose. The default adjustment of ISM PN is have it to the maximum setback possible since you can sit on the nose anyhow.
Some of the bad things I found with ISM PN is that it is only comfortable in fully slammed down aero position. It's probably a limitation due to the Time Trial (TT) oriented design of the saddle. The other bad thing is being less comfortable in bumpy roads unless you have a compliant bike frame or seat tube or seatpost suspension. And finally, wide split nose design with shallow angle kinda rubs the thighs.
And here I thought you were a young guy and your posting here. You just never knose
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I went through at least 5 saddles before I found one that was comfortable and didn't cause any urogenital problems even on long rides. Then I bought a bunch of them, because the company (Avocet) went out of business. Now I have the same saddle on all 4 bikes, same saddle height, same saddle angle. I wear good, but not exceptional bib shorts, and use chamois cream on every ride, because it seems to help keep everything in place, plus prevents chafing. I've thrown out shorts when the lycra gets too loose to support everything.
On the trainer, I do make an effort to 'dance on the pedals' every so often, but I wear the same shorts I wear on the road, and no extra padding. I'd note that everything I've ever tried with more padding, or especially gel, always ends up making any problem worse. In fact one pair of bib shorts I bought because they were on special have thicker padding directly under the 'sit bones' and invariably when I wear those my sit bones get sore. Same thing for a 'gel' saddle I tried. Felt comfy for a 10 mile ride, but most of the way through a 20 mile ride I realized I'd gone numb. With gloves, anything with those little gel pads and my fingers go numb. So as I say I'm not big on gel-padded anything.
On the trainer, I do make an effort to 'dance on the pedals' every so often, but I wear the same shorts I wear on the road, and no extra padding. I'd note that everything I've ever tried with more padding, or especially gel, always ends up making any problem worse. In fact one pair of bib shorts I bought because they were on special have thicker padding directly under the 'sit bones' and invariably when I wear those my sit bones get sore. Same thing for a 'gel' saddle I tried. Felt comfy for a 10 mile ride, but most of the way through a 20 mile ride I realized I'd gone numb. With gloves, anything with those little gel pads and my fingers go numb. So as I say I'm not big on gel-padded anything.
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Have been ill so have not ridden for a few days so sorry no long term report. But when I was riding it, I found the seat comfortable on 25 mile rides and actually positioned me better, more forward on the bike. It really helped me rotate my hips and get lower. Haven’t done any longer rides.
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Interesting there is no discussion regarding the ISM PL series of saddles. Granted they are very strange, if not weird looking, but if they work for a majority of these issues... Besides no one will know unless you are off the bike. Have been emailing with a rep from ISM.
My issue is not numbness or ED but urination urgency which hits out of no where. I have got to go NOW! It is very disconcerting because you never know when it will hit or where. Have to make sure to go before I go anywhere for insurance. On long rides, I have to scout bushes and trees even for small amounts. Will try ISM and report back.
My issue is not numbness or ED but urination urgency which hits out of no where. I have got to go NOW! It is very disconcerting because you never know when it will hit or where. Have to make sure to go before I go anywhere for insurance. On long rides, I have to scout bushes and trees even for small amounts. Will try ISM and report back.
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