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Old 08-22-19, 07:48 PM
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I still have my high school year book and my letter jacket.
There might be some other bits, but I can't think of them at the moment.
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Originally Posted by MoAlpha
I’ve got a trainer wheel and tire for the dumb trainer already and folding would be nice for our tiny basement.
Does it really make much of a difference in terms of storage? Regardless, if that's the path of least spousal resistance, go with it. I'd probably go with a Wahoo just because I've got a Bolt, but I think that most in the $500-600 region are pretty competitive.
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Originally Posted by indyfabz
I'm going to grill a fish for dinner. Hopefully another pompano.
I grabbed a cheeseburger and some chips at the Circle K for dinner. Late night at the bike shop.
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2019 Cannondale Super Six Evo 105 Carbon for $1,520. Is this my next bike?

Going to replace my 15 year old aluminum bike if I can find a good deal. I was planning on getting the 2019 CAAD 12 105 but they don't seem to be available. For about $250 more than the unavailable CAAD 12, I can get the carbon frame and save a pound. Rim brakes of course.

Thoughts? TIA.
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Someone on NextDoor was asking why some runners run in the street. It was predictably one-sided and lacking perspective, so I thought that I'd provide some. Yeah, that went well.
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Old 08-22-19, 07:59 PM
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Originally Posted by MoAlpha
Any opinions on wheel-on smart trainers? Wife is interested and that would will help me justify it.
CycleOps makes a nice trainer. I have one. We use them at the shop. They have smart trainers starting at $235.

https://www.cycleops.com/catalog/smart-trainers
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Originally Posted by DougRNS
2019 Cannondale Super Six Evo 105 Carbon for $1,520. Is this my next bike?

Going to replace my 15 year old aluminum bike if I can find a good deal. I was planning on getting the 2019 CAAD 12 105 but they don't seem to be available. For about $250 more than the unavailable CAAD 12, I can get the carbon frame and save a pound. Rim brakes of course.

Thoughts? TIA.
New or used? If it's from a shop, that's a good pretty good price; MSRPs for carbon and 105 are typically going to start in the $2k region (the high-zoot wunder carbons will often be an additional $1k or more).
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Old 08-22-19, 08:06 PM
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Originally Posted by rjones28
CycleOps makes a nice trainer. I have one. We use them at the shop. They have smart trainers starting at $235.

https://www.cycleops.com/catalog/smart-trainers
If the resistance isn't computer controlled, they shouldn't be labeling them as smart trainers, IMO. That's whack.
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Originally Posted by rjones28
There might be some other bits, but I can't think of them at the moment.
No idea where mine went. I have 2much junk.
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Originally Posted by WhyFi
New or used? If it's from a shop, that's a good pretty good price; MSRPs for carbon and 105 are typically going to start in the $2k region (the high-zoot wunder carbons will often be an additional $1k or more).
New, from a well know retailer running a labor day sale. I would rather get the cheaper, unavailable bike and trade the 1 pound weight savings for the $250 savings. I can tolerate the higher price since it gets me a ~17.5 pound bike. Things have changed over the past 15 years. :shrug emoji:
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Old 08-22-19, 08:21 PM
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Originally Posted by WhyFi
If the resistance isn't computer controlled, they shouldn't be labeling them as smart trainers, IMO. That's whack.
But it's less expensive than a dumb trainer and a power meter.
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Originally Posted by MoAlpha
Any opinions on wheel-on smart trainers? Wife is interested and that would will help me justify it.
The Cycle Ops Magnus was good value for the money. Controls resistance and has a built in cadence function without a separate sensor needed. Like speed. I think the M2 is the current model and cheaper.
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Old 08-22-19, 08:40 PM
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Originally Posted by DougRNS
New, from a well know retailer running a labor day sale. I would rather get the cheaper, unavailable bike and trade the 1 pound weight savings for the $250 savings. I can tolerate the higher price since it gets me a ~17.5 pound bike. Things have changed over the past 15 years. :shrug emoji:
Either sounds like a good buy, but if both were available the SS would be worth the extra $250 to me.
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Originally Posted by rjones28
But it's less expensive than a dumb trainer and a power meter.
Definitely, but that doesn't make it a smart trainer. It makes it a dumb trainer with a speed sensor.
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Originally Posted by DougRNS
2019 Cannondale Super Six Evo 105 Carbon for $1,520. Is this my next bike?

Going to replace my 15 year old aluminum bike if I can find a good deal. I was planning on getting the 2019 CAAD 12 105 but they don't seem to be available. For about $250 more than the unavailable CAAD 12, I can get the carbon frame and save a pound. Rim brakes of course.

Thoughts? TIA.
As someone who is fiscally constrained from buying a plastic bike, do it. Spend the extra money for the lighter bike.
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Originally Posted by MoAlpha
Any opinions on wheel-on smart trainers? Wife is interested and that would will help me justify it.
I have a Kickr Snap. It does what it’s supposed to.
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All of this trainer talk is depressing.
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Originally Posted by Trsnrtr
All of this trainer talk is depressing.
Too soon?
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My trainer gets used from November through March, but only when road conditions prevent regular rides. So maybe twice/week for 5 months. I don't even keep my Zwift account active during for April-October.
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Hey @MoAlpha, I did a decent amount of research on Smart Trainers before making my purchase. Best resource is DCRainmaker, he comes out with an annual trainer review every fall. If you are in no rush, you may even want to wait until October-ish or whenever the next version comes out.

Bottom line is that the major manufacturers of Smart Trainers are all pretty competitive and at any price point, they all offer reasonable options. Wheel-on trainers are cheaper by a few hundred $$, with tradeoffs. Look at what you really want from a trainer and figure it out. At a certain point, deciding what trainer is "best" at a given price point is like asking which brand bicycle is best, they are all similar with very minor differences.

What are your goals for said trainer??
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1 hour AR on the TT bike this morning. On the trainer. It is just easier to maintain a civil pace on the trainer as opposed to trying to tone it down on hills, and stuff.
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Originally Posted by WhyFi
If the resistance isn't computer controlled, they shouldn't be labeling them as smart trainers, IMO. That's whack.
Originally Posted by rjones28
But it's less expensive than a dumb trainer and a power meter.
Originally Posted by WhyFi
Definitely, but that doesn't make it a smart trainer. It makes it a dumb trainer with a speed sensor.
Agree with @WhyFi. Done to show off multi-quote skilz.
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Does anyone know how to do nested-multi quote?? I have seen it done but don't know how.
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Originally Posted by WhyFi
Definitely, but that doesn't make it a smart trainer. It makes it a dumb trainer with a speed sensor.
All people really care about is that it works with Zwift right out of the box.
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