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Well, I guess I'll sound like the curmudgeon i probably am--but I didn't have wheels until I could pay for the car and the insurance. Since I already had a ton of college bills, I didn't buy a car until I was 23. it was a 1965 Pontiac that I bought in 1978 for $450 cash. Somehow I survived all those without a car. In fact, life seemed just fine.
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I distinctly remember that I had no insurance until several hours after I got my license.
I'm pretty sure that, in alaska at least, one could get a license and not have insurance. You'd just have to refrain from driving. I think you could drive in that situation, though, if you paid for a car rental which included liability insurance.
I'm pretty sure that, in alaska at least, one could get a license and not have insurance. You'd just have to refrain from driving. I think you could drive in that situation, though, if you paid for a car rental which included liability insurance.
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Car-free would be nice but it'll be a long time before we're free of gasoline-based equipment.
My take on it is that I want my kid to learn to drive/ride many types of vehicles and also power equipment. As many as possible. skateboard, in-line blades, ski-ing...Mowers, mini bikes, cars including stick-shift and bikes.
My take on it is that I want my kid to learn to drive/ride many types of vehicles and also power equipment. As many as possible. skateboard, in-line blades, ski-ing...Mowers, mini bikes, cars including stick-shift and bikes.
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Originally Posted by Roody
I'm not criticizing or flaming, just wondering. . . .
Do any of you on the Carfree forum have kids who are carfree? I mean, it seems like everybody is talking about car insurance for their kids. Does it make sense to not let teens drive at all, maybe until they finish high school, or are able to pay for car and insurance themselves?
Do your kids think you're crazy because you don't drive? Do you think they will follow in your footsteps (or bike tiretracks)? What gives with the youth of today?
Do any of you on the Carfree forum have kids who are carfree? I mean, it seems like everybody is talking about car insurance for their kids. Does it make sense to not let teens drive at all, maybe until they finish high school, or are able to pay for car and insurance themselves?
Do your kids think you're crazy because you don't drive? Do you think they will follow in your footsteps (or bike tiretracks)? What gives with the youth of today?
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I'm a high school student also... also in seattle just like vrkelley's kid. I'd be out of any opportunity to use a car if I got one speeding ticket and two, well then the law outside of my parents would step in. Your son's definitely going to be fine riding a bike, at least for a while. As for the social life; I've got a job and a ****load of other stuff to do and riding a bike only seems to enhance the fun I can have leeching off of my parents for the next and last year of my youth. He deserves what he got and he'll be fine.
p.s. I drive about once every couple months and I see my self very competent behind the wheel, but I guess my inferior brain isn't as developed as that of an adult.
p.p.s. Any grown ass men/women who get two speeding tickets need their licenses taken away for a while too.
p.s. I drive about once every couple months and I see my self very competent behind the wheel, but I guess my inferior brain isn't as developed as that of an adult.
p.p.s. Any grown ass men/women who get two speeding tickets need their licenses taken away for a while too.
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Originally Posted by henryblowery
"Do any of you on the Carfree forum have kids who are carfree? I mean, it seems like everybody is talking about car insurance for their kids."
You have to have insurance to get a lisence. How many of ya'll that are carfree don't have a drivers lisence? I plan on getting my lisence when I'm 16 and will be expected to pay my insurance but theres no way I'm going to own a car(sorry I'm no writer )
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You have to have insurance to get a lisence. How many of ya'll that are carfree don't have a drivers lisence? I plan on getting my lisence when I'm 16 and will be expected to pay my insurance but theres no way I'm going to own a car(sorry I'm no writer )
Gray
Most places, you can get an official state ID card that is accepted for check cashing, alcohol and tobacco purchases, etc.
(BTW, I think you write OK. Better than some of the old folks. )
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Originally Posted by gregas
I'm a high school student also... also in seattle just like vrkelley's kid. I'd be out of any opportunity to use a car if I got one speeding ticket and two, well then the law outside of my parents would step in. Your son's definitely going to be fine riding a bike, at least for a while. As for the social life; I've got a job and a ****load of other stuff to do and riding a bike only seems to enhance the fun I can have leeching off of my parents for the next and last year of my youth. He deserves what he got and he'll be fine.
p.s. I drive about once every couple months and I see my self very competent behind the wheel, but I guess my inferior brain isn't as developed as that of an adult.
p.p.s. Any grown ass men/women who get two speeding tickets need their licenses taken away for a while too.
p.s. I drive about once every couple months and I see my self very competent behind the wheel, but I guess my inferior brain isn't as developed as that of an adult.
p.p.s. Any grown ass men/women who get two speeding tickets need their licenses taken away for a while too.
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Lauren-
you responded to my post where i said i would not pay for insurance for my kids, saying
That's not my intent at all. I don't have kids, (and i'm only 22) but I intend to in a few years, and I don't intend to protect them from much of anything not involving death or disability. I won't protect them from their own expenses. I don't intend to pay for insurance for myself-- why should they get insurance on my dime? To me, the sheltered kid is the one who doesn't have to do stuff for him/herself, like pay if he has car insurance, start covering some of her own expenses when she's old enough to work, or waste his time in school because it isn't his job paying for those classrooms and teachers.
My parents still pay for car insurance for me, and I drive occasionally but if my driving required my paying for insurance, I'd quit driving. I suggested they could stop paying for my insurance, and they didn't want to.
you responded to my post where i said i would not pay for insurance for my kids, saying
Protect them from evil and all that crap. The more you shelter them the harder they fall
My parents still pay for car insurance for me, and I drive occasionally but if my driving required my paying for insurance, I'd quit driving. I suggested they could stop paying for my insurance, and they didn't want to.
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"To me, the sheltered kid is the one who doesn't have to do stuff for him/herself"
I agree, sometimes I complain when I have to do stuff but I know its for the best.
lauren, what school do you go to?
Gray
I agree, sometimes I complain when I have to do stuff but I know its for the best.
lauren, what school do you go to?
Gray
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I don't beleave that it's in my parents job discription to pay car insurance for 3 kids. Nobodys stoping me from getting a lisence and driving I just have to pay for it.
Oh, and don't get the tattoo mabe the motorcycle but not the tattoo.
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I don't beleave that it's in my parents job discription to pay car insurance for 3 kids. Nobodys stoping me from getting a lisence and driving I just have to pay for it.
Oh, and don't get the tattoo mabe the motorcycle but not the tattoo.
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Originally Posted by lauren
I got really involved as a student and learned from the racers and wanna-bes. If my parents knew what I did on a bicycle they'd blow a coronary.
anyway. yes. my parents wouldn't be happy with how i ride...
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I'm a 17 year old that has a permit that is expiring. Its a complete waste of time, I didn't even have to take Driver's Ed training but I did for the heck of it. We were living out in the country/suburbs and I needed to transport myself back and forth.
Now that I live in the city I have entertained myself with the bike all year. I will never get a car in this convenience. My parents are pushing a liscence on me and want to get a car but I refuse. Its so much more convenient on a bike. Especially money-wise as I don't want a job either.
Now that I live in the city I have entertained myself with the bike all year. I will never get a car in this convenience. My parents are pushing a liscence on me and want to get a car but I refuse. Its so much more convenient on a bike. Especially money-wise as I don't want a job either.
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Originally Posted by Roody
I'm not criticizing or flaming, just wondering. . . .
Do any of you on the Carfree forum have kids who are carfree? I mean, it seems like everybody is talking about car insurance for their kids. Does it make sense to not let teens drive at all, maybe until they finish high school, or are able to pay for car and insurance themselves?
Do your kids think you're crazy because you don't drive? Do you think they will follow in your footsteps (or bike tiretracks)? What gives with the youth of today?
Do any of you on the Carfree forum have kids who are carfree? I mean, it seems like everybody is talking about car insurance for their kids. Does it make sense to not let teens drive at all, maybe until they finish high school, or are able to pay for car and insurance themselves?
Do your kids think you're crazy because you don't drive? Do you think they will follow in your footsteps (or bike tiretracks)? What gives with the youth of today?
I think my example of car-free living has partly been responsible for helping him to see that getting around by bike is possible, practical and reasonable. He certainly doesn't think I'm crazy. He also takes long rides with me, for fun, when he has time, which isn't too often these days with his work and school schedule. But I firmly believe he's better for the experience of being car-free, and healthier overall for all the exercise that he might not otherwise be getting. His girlfriend and some of his friends have cars, so it doesn't cramp his social style so far as I can see.
My daughter, a couple of years older, has a car that she bought and paid for herself while she was still in high school; her dad still pays for her insurance. She will always be car-dependent, I think. Different strokes--and that's fine, but they pay for it themselves, as far as I'm concerned.
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Originally Posted by vrkelley
Car-free would be nice but it'll be a long time before we're free of gasoline-based equipment.
My take on it is that I want my kid to learn to drive/ride many types of vehicles and also power equipment. As many as possible. skateboard, in-line blades, ski-ing...Mowers, mini bikes, cars including stick-shift and bikes.
My take on it is that I want my kid to learn to drive/ride many types of vehicles and also power equipment. As many as possible. skateboard, in-line blades, ski-ing...Mowers, mini bikes, cars including stick-shift and bikes.
Quite honestly, I think having your kid bike to different places will be a good learning experience.
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i am plaing to be car free as long as i can and i am only 16. the only reasone i would get a liscince is if my friends get hammered and cant drive or somthing
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Originally Posted by lauren
Protect them from evil and all that crap. The more you shelter them the harder they fall, and all their friends will only think of you as a cheap bastard, making it worse. Think about if you really want your kids to get a motorcycle instead because the insurance is so much cheaper . I speak from personal experience. motorcycle safety foundation course next weekend. Can anyone say zoom zoom? My little brother is thinking about doing the same thing, only he wants a dual sport and I'm too short for them so if I get one it would probably be a street bike instead.
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Originally Posted by Katrogen
I'm a 17 year old that has a permit that is expiring. Its a complete waste of time, I didn't even have to take Driver's Ed training but I did for the heck of it. We were living out in the country/suburbs and I needed to transport myself back and forth.
Now that I live in the city I have entertained myself with the bike all year. I will never get a car in this convenience. My parents are pushing a liscence on me and want to get a car but I refuse. Its so much more convenient on a bike. Especially money-wise as I don't want a job either.
Now that I live in the city I have entertained myself with the bike all year. I will never get a car in this convenience. My parents are pushing a liscence on me and want to get a car but I refuse. Its so much more convenient on a bike. Especially money-wise as I don't want a job either.
Guess I am just saying good for you, and always do what you think best while still considering the wisdom of others. You can be carfree in more places than the city, too. I personally find self contained, small towns to be the most fun to live in.
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Originally Posted by lauren
Within my first semester I've already gotten more piercings, and will probably have a motorcycle and tattoo before it's all finished.