Pulling the trigger on a Cinelli Vigorelli
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Pulling the trigger on a Cinelli Vigorelli
After a long internal struggle about "should I buy a fixed gear or another road bike?" I've decided to try and build a pink Cinelli Vigorelli because it looks gorgeous. I have some components figured out but I'm not sure if they are reasonable. Other things I have no clue about how to judge or what to consider.
I could use some help figuring out the right wheels for this build, if I need anything special for the frame's integrated headset (where does the stem go? surely the steerer isn't precut), and if I've made a grave error with my combination of components.
My local shop made my dilemma worse by showing me a Specialized Langster Pro 2014 which I found for about the same cost as this build. Should I scrap the build and go for a built bike?
Thank you for your help, I know I'm all over the place here :/
- Vigorelli frame 58cm
- Omnium crankset 1/8"
- Shimano Dura Ace Cog 1/8"
- Izumi ECO Chain 1/8"
- Cinelli MASH 75º Stem 90mm
- Crew Bike Co Compact Road Handlebar
- Crew Bike Co Carbon Fiber Seat Post
I could use some help figuring out the right wheels for this build, if I need anything special for the frame's integrated headset (where does the stem go? surely the steerer isn't precut), and if I've made a grave error with my combination of components.
My local shop made my dilemma worse by showing me a Specialized Langster Pro 2014 which I found for about the same cost as this build. Should I scrap the build and go for a built bike?
Thank you for your help, I know I'm all over the place here :/
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An integrated headset means that the headset comes with the frameset. Nothing really special or to worry about considering they're cartridge-based.
All you have left to do is get your LBS to cut the steerer tube to length and pound in the starnut that comes too.
As far as parts go, you're good. /Stereotypical cinelli build
You forgot wheels. Are they going to be the customary H+son archetypes to formula hubs?
You forgot saddle too.
It takes a 31.6mm post BTW.
Also, how did you determine your stem size?
All you have left to do is get your LBS to cut the steerer tube to length and pound in the starnut that comes too.
As far as parts go, you're good. /Stereotypical cinelli build
You forgot wheels. Are they going to be the customary H+son archetypes to formula hubs?
You forgot saddle too.
It takes a 31.6mm post BTW.
Also, how did you determine your stem size?
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If you're not sure on piecing this bike together then consider the compete bike from the shop. You can always try again when you become more knowledgeable.
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I determined the stem size from knowing that a 58cm frame would be a bit big for my height (6'1") and getting a shorter stem to account for that. I am most likely wrong in my approach but it was the most reasonable conclusion I could draw. Is there a better way?
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Following the idea of buying a complete bike, is it even reasonable to go with a $1500 Langster Pro as my first fixed gear? Would getting a $500 Aventon Mataro or Unknown Singularity be a wiser choice?
Thanks for the advice!
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I already have a saddle, that's why I didn't include it. Wheels are still a mystery for me, but any reason not to use the H+son Formation Face rims and a Formula TH-61/62 hub?
I determined the stem size from knowing that a 58cm frame would be a bit big for my height (6'1") and getting a shorter stem to account for that. I am most likely wrong in my approach but it was the most reasonable conclusion I could draw. Is there a better way?
I determined the stem size from knowing that a 58cm frame would be a bit big for my height (6'1") and getting a shorter stem to account for that. I am most likely wrong in my approach but it was the most reasonable conclusion I could draw. Is there a better way?
Also, you should consider additional bodily proportions beside just going from height.
Try this: Bike Fit Calculator | Find Your Bike Size | Competitive Cyclist
With this for reference/ accompanyment: Revisionist Theory of Bicycle Sizing
It may seem like a lot of work but it's worth it in the long run than half-guessing and buying a wrong sized frame.
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I've read good things about the frame and I think it looks gorgeous. I'm trying to build a decent bike that will last me a few years at least. If that means spending a bit more on a frame set, I don't mind doing so.
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My advice would be to stay away from a carbon post. They just scare me a little. Seen them break.
Also- don't get omniums unless you plan on getting a phil or king BB. I hear Scrod just stocked a few phils!
For wheels- check out Stans ZTR 340s laced to something like dura ace hubs. They're tubeless, they're strong, and they're damn light.
Also- don't get omniums unless you plan on getting a phil or king BB. I hear Scrod just stocked a few phils!
For wheels- check out Stans ZTR 340s laced to something like dura ace hubs. They're tubeless, they're strong, and they're damn light.
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I Just finished building a Vigorelli last month for a B-day gift to myself. I wasn't planning on buying Cinelli either, but PBK had the frame-set on sale for $580 shipped so I figured at that price I couldn't loose. So far I'm pretty happy with it and have no complaints.
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I Just finished building a Vigorelli last month for a B-day gift to myself. I wasn't planning on buying Cinelli either, but PBK had the frame-set on sale for $580 shipped so I figured at that price I couldn't loose. So far I'm pretty happy with it and have no complaints.
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The bottom bracket included with them is low quality and tends to fail after a couple hundred of miles. The phil & chris king ones can probably out last the original owner.
Sram has plenty of reasons to include a cheap BB because of their financial bottom line and they conveniently offer higher end GXP bb's that they want you to buy.
Sram has plenty of reasons to include a cheap BB because of their financial bottom line and they conveniently offer higher end GXP bb's that they want you to buy.
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Ive been pleased w my omni bb's. Maybe run them stock for a bit first then upgrade later. The cranksets are awesome especially if youre a big guy like me and put some newton meters down. 58cm frame means maybe you too
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Like people have said people have experienced early BB bearing failure. Others have had no problems at all. I have read that If your BB shell hasn't been faced you can have problems with premature bearing wear with external bb. I guess some bike Mfg. don't have their BB shell's faced.
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Since nobody asked... my advice would be to get whatever carbon parts you want, but don't install them without a torque wrench.