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Old 09-27-12, 03:26 PM
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Here you go -- New Retro Pinarello

https://www.pinarello.com/eng/veneto_748.php
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Old 09-27-12, 03:29 PM
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I like it but I don't like it? might as well buy an older frame and save some money haha
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Hmm. Not as bad as some retro models I've seen. Don't like the ergo bar though.
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What's the retail price?
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What is " Ultegra Vintage Replica 60's "?



Looks interesting but it still has DP brakes.
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Wow!, top tube cable clamps and all....plus non aero brake levers/cabling. If only they went all the way and went with non-ergo bars, then the illusion will be complete.......Wondering if the price kills any logic of just finding a real C&V bike instead..........on which you will never have to make excuses about your bike to C&V riders you might bump into.....

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Well, at least it has a curved fork, but the curve looks Raleigh to me.
The parts spec is I think pretty reasonable in some ways, Sugino crank I can see.
One could ride it in L'eroica even.
Pretty limited frame sizes.
My guess is that the bike imaged is a 54. Which sure has a slack head angle comported to what must be a steep seat tube angle?, 72 & 74?

Must be lightweight, as it floats as indicated by the shadows.
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Where's the Campagnolo option ?
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You can tell these guys are "Neo C&Vers"....The have the angle of the crank arms wrong on the pic....For best C&V driveside pic, drive side arm end should be somehwere near 4 o'clock..... and not higher than the BB center.
Ohhh...didn't notice, but blackwalls??!! Blehhhh.....
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Originally Posted by Bianchigirll
Looks interesting but it still has DP brakes.
Vertical dropouts too... pppllllffff.
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Originally Posted by DiabloScott
Vertical dropouts too... pppllllffff.
I do not think there are any "buyout" horizontal dropouts produced now.
The rear drops and maybe the fronts too are of the socket type, much quicker to assemble.
The traditional Italian way of using the Campagnolo and derivative parts is a quite labor intensive process, and those with the knowledge to work with those parts are still working but elsewhere or retired.
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Originally Posted by Bianchigirll
Looks interesting but it still has DP brakes.
That would be a plus. DP calipers work better.
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Originally Posted by Bianchigirll
Looks interesting but it still has DP brakes.
That's a modern concession I am OK with. They just stop so well.
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Nice looking bike. I, too, would prefer a non-ergo bar, but that would not be a deal-breaker for me. I agree with repechage that the bend of the forks looks kind of . . . how to put this . . . not to my taste (I prefer bends that continue right to the dropout instead of just bending in the middle of the blade with straight sections on both sides of of the bend), but that wouldn't be a deal-breaker, either. I very much prefer brifters for function, but I understand why DT shifters are used here, and they certainloy do make the bike look clean, so I could live with that.

The fact that the sizing stops at 58cm and thus is nowhere near what freakishly large people such as me need - that would be a deal-breaker.

That is all assuming that I were in the market for another bike, which I'm not. (I think I may be dangerously close to S-1.)
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Originally Posted by repechage
I do not think there are any "buyout" horizontal dropouts produced now.
The rear drops and maybe the fronts too are of the socket type, much quicker to assemble.
The traditional Italian way of using the Campagnolo and derivative parts is a quite labor intensive process, and those with the knowledge to work with those parts are still working but elsewhere or retired.
What are these on my fake Masi? This was a pretty cheap bike, three years old.

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Nice, but I'd like non-ergo bars, aero levers and internal rear brake cable routing. More '90s maybe.
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Old 09-27-12, 05:17 PM
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That fork looks er, not good. Trying too hard with modern indexed parts and cable clamps together. Cable clamps, but no gumwalls..?

Shoot for the high end 80's/90's, not a odd mix of the 60's and 00's.

I'd prefer internal rear brake cable routing and brifters, with concessions to a retro paint job, and gimme a fully chromed fork whilst at it to match the stays. I like the crank. The ultegra RD sort of, well, 105 looks more retro to my eyes. Can't argue with ultegra as a functional choice though.
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That's a niche-market bike if there ever was one. Bleah.

The only plus seems to be that it's so light it doesn't stay on the ground

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I wonder how much for a Frame set? I can see that now with Athena 11speed, and a custom wheelset.
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What are these on my fake Masi?
I love that you called it a "fake Masi!"
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Perfect for a Scottsdale lawyer.
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Originally Posted by teetime
Perfect for a Scottsdale lawyer.
OFG, time for you to go away forever. Want to push it?
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What about the Catena?



https://www.bikyle.com/SingleSpeedRd.asp
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Originally Posted by RFC
OFG, time for you to go away forever. Want to push it?
You have me confused with someone else, but that seems like a threat. How about we race? Tour de Scottsdale? Chip timed.
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Originally Posted by teetime
You have me confused with someone else, but that seems like a threat. How about we race? Tour de Scottsdale? Chip timed.
Might want to check your IP's...
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