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06-18-19, 07:08 PM
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06-18-19, 07:37 PM
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We want lighter because it saves us seconds on climbs that are higher grades and 10x longer than we ever ride. Why? To be faster in certain, yet rare situations, while at our current level of fitness. Cost... A lot of $$$$
We want more aero to make us faster (while at our current level of fitness), while we ride in groups, draft, and negate the aero all but when we are on the front pulling. Cost... A lot of $$$$ P.S. the most aero position is the one you rarely see anyone riding in.
Meanwhile riding a heavier, less aero bike would technically make us more fit (for the same speed) as we were forced to squeeze out those few extra watts to keep pace with our group rides.
So the only time any of our "upgrades" make sense is if we are riding solo and want to be faster (presumably for strava that almost no one analyzes), or racing.
All that being said, I cant help but want a bike that's lighter and more aero.
We want more aero to make us faster (while at our current level of fitness), while we ride in groups, draft, and negate the aero all but when we are on the front pulling. Cost... A lot of $$$$ P.S. the most aero position is the one you rarely see anyone riding in.
Meanwhile riding a heavier, less aero bike would technically make us more fit (for the same speed) as we were forced to squeeze out those few extra watts to keep pace with our group rides.
So the only time any of our "upgrades" make sense is if we are riding solo and want to be faster (presumably for strava that almost no one analyzes), or racing.
All that being said, I cant help but want a bike that's lighter and more aero.
06-18-19, 08:20 PM
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06-18-19, 08:36 PM
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While aero gains are generally made less significant by draft, they still exist. And the benefits of "aero" equipment are often biggest under significant crosswinds, which is also when it's hardest to achieve optimal drafting.
06-18-19, 09:07 PM
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We want lighter because it saves us seconds on climbs that are higher grades and 10x longer than we ever ride. Why? To be faster in certain, yet rare situations, while at our current level of fitness. Cost... A lot of $$$$
We want more aero to make us faster (while at our current level of fitness), while we ride in groups, draft, and negate the aero all but when we are on the front pulling. Cost... A lot of $$$$ P.S. the most aero position is the one you rarely see anyone riding in.
Meanwhile riding a heavier, less aero bike would technically make us more fit (for the same speed) as we were forced to squeeze out those few extra watts to keep pace with our group rides.
So the only time any of our "upgrades" make sense is if we are riding solo and want to be faster (presumably for strava that almost no one analyzes), or racing.
All that being said, I cant help but want a bike that's lighter and more aero.
We want more aero to make us faster (while at our current level of fitness), while we ride in groups, draft, and negate the aero all but when we are on the front pulling. Cost... A lot of $$$$ P.S. the most aero position is the one you rarely see anyone riding in.
Meanwhile riding a heavier, less aero bike would technically make us more fit (for the same speed) as we were forced to squeeze out those few extra watts to keep pace with our group rides.
So the only time any of our "upgrades" make sense is if we are riding solo and want to be faster (presumably for strava that almost no one analyzes), or racing.
All that being said, I cant help but want a bike that's lighter and more aero.
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Well my whole bike was $1100 after all the upgrades I installed. I don't think it's crazy at all. A good entry level bike with 105 is about $1000-$1500. Makes perfect sense. Zero sense is spending $3k on a bike, then buying $2k zipp wheel set and you are not even a pro tour rider.
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Well my whole bike was $1100 after all the upgrades I installed. I don't think it's crazy at all. A good entry level bike with 105 is about $1000-$1500. Makes perfect sense. Zero sense is spending $3k on a bike, then buying $2k zipp wheel set and you are not even a pro tour rider.
06-19-19, 01:18 AM
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Personally, don't think I'd ever reach the point where the benefits out weigh the cost. Can I just ride your?
They do. But it usually doesn't take me long to find something they have that's the equivalent. Or makes even less sense, like jewelry or tattoos.
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06-24-19, 01:51 PM
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I considered spending $$$$ for a lighter, carbon bike. But since I was an overweight 220+ lbs at the time, I figured a lighter bike did not offer much of a benefit. Now that I am 163 lbs, I am starting to think about it, but we'll see..
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We are captives of our subconscious psychology in so many ways.
We want lighter because it saves us seconds on climbs that are higher grades and 10x longer than we ever ride. Why? To be faster in certain, yet rare situations, while at our current level of fitness. Cost... A lot of $$$$
We want more aero to make us faster (while at our current level of fitness), while we ride in groups, draft, and negate the aero all but when we are on the front pulling. Cost... A lot of $$$$ P.S. the most aero position is the one you rarely see anyone riding in.
Meanwhile riding a heavier, less aero bike would technically make us more fit (for the same speed) as we were forced to squeeze out those few extra watts to keep pace with our group rides.
So the only time any of our "upgrades" make sense is if we are riding solo and want to be faster (presumably for strava that almost no one analyzes), or racing.
All that being said, I cant help but want a bike that's lighter and more aero.
We want more aero to make us faster (while at our current level of fitness), while we ride in groups, draft, and negate the aero all but when we are on the front pulling. Cost... A lot of $$$$ P.S. the most aero position is the one you rarely see anyone riding in.
Meanwhile riding a heavier, less aero bike would technically make us more fit (for the same speed) as we were forced to squeeze out those few extra watts to keep pace with our group rides.
So the only time any of our "upgrades" make sense is if we are riding solo and want to be faster (presumably for strava that almost no one analyzes), or racing.
All that being said, I cant help but want a bike that's lighter and more aero.
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