Sram Force AXS 2x12
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Sram Force AXS 2x12
I would like to ask if anyone has the info what is the biggest cassette that will work with Sram force AXS 2x12 RD. Official statement is 10-33, is that correct? I had the Force 1x11 and it worked with 9-46 cassette.
I was thinking how i could setup the AXS Force to be similar to my current setup, front 46/30, back 11/34.
With 1x12 Force-Eagle front 46 tooh, back 10/50 you get similar range but bigger gaps between shifts, anyone already tried this setup?
Thanks!
I was thinking how i could setup the AXS Force to be similar to my current setup, front 46/30, back 11/34.
With 1x12 Force-Eagle front 46 tooh, back 10/50 you get similar range but bigger gaps between shifts, anyone already tried this setup?
Thanks!
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I would like to ask if anyone has the info what is the biggest cassette that will work with Sram force AXS 2x12 RD. Official statement is 10-33, is that correct? I had the Force 1x11 and it worked with 9-46 cassette.
I was thinking how i could setup the AXS Force to be similar to my current setup, front 46/30, back 11/34.
With 1x12 Force-Eagle front 46 tooh, back 10/50 you get similar range but bigger gaps between shifts, anyone already tried this setup?
Thanks!
I was thinking how i could setup the AXS Force to be similar to my current setup, front 46/30, back 11/34.
With 1x12 Force-Eagle front 46 tooh, back 10/50 you get similar range but bigger gaps between shifts, anyone already tried this setup?
Thanks!
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What I find even crazier is that the company that can fill that hole, being Shimano with the 12 speed 10-45 MTB cassette, has no way of using it on a drop bar setup. It's like we're so close, yet so far.
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Why would 12sp 10-50 be bad for 1x? This gear range about solves one of the two main shortcomings of 1x. 500% range finally puts 1x equal with the gear range of common gravel 2x setups and a wider than road subcompact that is the typical choice for smoother gravel. Add in 1 or two more gear steps (ie: 13-14sp) and 1x finally starts to look equal to 2x.
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Why would 12sp 10-50 be bad for 1x? This gear range about solves one of the two main shortcomings of 1x. 500% range finally puts 1x equal with the gear range of common gravel 2x setups and a wider than road subcompact that is the typical choice for smoother gravel. Add in 1 or two more gear steps (ie: 13-14sp) and 1x finally starts to look equal to 2x.
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An average step size of 15.7%. Not a problem on technical stuff, massively annoying for a lot of people on non-technical stuff.
The alternative 2x setup at that point will also have 14 gears in back. That would allow a >500% road double with comparable (actually slightly better) spacing compared with current 11-28 11-speed road cassettes. Whereas a 500% 14-speed cassette is still going to have an annoyingly large 13% average gear step.
Currently, the only way to achieve classical road-like spacing and a >500% gear range is with a triple, or by doing something mildly crazy like coupling a half-step-ish arrangement with an ultra-wide-range "1x" cassette. (In a sensible world, Shimano would sell a half-step synchro Di2 option.)
Add in 1 or two more gear steps (ie: 13-14sp) and 1x finally starts to look equal to 2x.
Currently, the only way to achieve classical road-like spacing and a >500% gear range is with a triple, or by doing something mildly crazy like coupling a half-step-ish arrangement with an ultra-wide-range "1x" cassette. (In a sensible world, Shimano would sell a half-step synchro Di2 option.)
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The alternative 2x setup at that point will also have 14 gears in back. That would allow a >500% road double with comparable (actually slightly better) spacing compared with current 11-28 11-speed road cassettes. Whereas a 500% 14-speed cassette is still going to have an annoyingly large 13% average gear step.
Currently, the only way to achieve classical road-like spacing and a >500% gear range is with a triple, or by doing something mildly crazy like coupling a half-step-ish arrangement with an ultra-wide-range "1x" cassette. (In a sensible world, Shimano would sell a half-step synchro Di2 option.)
Currently, the only way to achieve classical road-like spacing and a >500% gear range is with a triple, or by doing something mildly crazy like coupling a half-step-ish arrangement with an ultra-wide-range "1x" cassette. (In a sensible world, Shimano would sell a half-step synchro Di2 option.)
As far as the half step idea, I've mapped out some of those as well and think that with modern shifters it could work very nicely after some recalibration of your shifting fingers. You are right that electronic shifting would work well except that I'm not sure I'd always want to shift through each of those ratios.
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The reason I listed 13-14 speed 1x however is because a 2x11 drivetrain still only has about that many distinct ratios.
As far as the half step idea, I've mapped out some of those as well and think that with modern shifters it could work very nicely after some recalibration of your shifting fingers. You are right that electronic shifting would work well except that I'm not sure I'd always want to shift through each of those ratios.
Remember, even full on roadies used to run wider gear steps before there were so many cogs on a cassette.
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