Tires for Carson Velodrome
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On boards, anything rubber will do, just stay away from coloured rubber with silicon that kills the grip factor. Here in Oz, everyone trains on cheap rubber clinchers of personal choice.
For racing, the ultra smooth surface allows for super high pressures and light tyre choices. Coninental and Vittoria are very popular brands. Go with what you can find and what you like
For racing, the ultra smooth surface allows for super high pressures and light tyre choices. Coninental and Vittoria are very popular brands. Go with what you can find and what you like
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I ride Vittorias at Carson and like them very much. My other wheels have Tempos on them for when I ride at Encino or San Diego. Of course, IMHO, you can also ride clinchers on those tracks because you need something that stands up to abrasion well, and that can be run at a lower pressure to keep from bouncing around too much.
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The Vittoria Pista Evo CS is popular. I've raced Continental Steher (good), Tempo (very good), and Sonderklassen (great) at ADT.
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I personally found Stehers to be very slippery at ADT.
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Huh. I didn't. but it's been a while, and I also know that Conti tinkers with their tires' formula/construction a lot.
I wouldn't say they're optimal for ADT, but I had them on wheels that I raced mostly outside and did a lot of training on, too. I like to say that they're racing tires that are durable enough to train on, or training tires that are good enough to race on.
I wouldn't say they're optimal for ADT, but I had them on wheels that I raced mostly outside and did a lot of training on, too. I like to say that they're racing tires that are durable enough to train on, or training tires that are good enough to race on.
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Yeah, they were a ***** tp put on, but they were very durable. They seemed like a great tire for a concrete track, but the one time I rode them in LA I couldn't hang with my (very slow) warm up group- they were too slow and I was slipping every corner. Had to go faster. Next time I came down I rode my whatever clincher training wheels and no slippage. I was pretty surprised. Did the usual prep (scotch write + alcohol) pre ride.
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(Reviving an oldish thread because I was doing my couple times a year browse of this forum and thought it worthwhile to comment, since there are older tire threads about the same tires...)
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Yeah, they were a ***** tp put on, but they were very durable. They seemed like a great tire for a concrete track, but the one time I rode them in LA I couldn't hang with my (very slow) warm up group- they were too slow and I was slipping every corner. Had to go faster. Next time I came down I rode my whatever clincher training wheels and no slippage. I was pretty surprised. Did the usual prep (scotch write + alcohol) pre ride.
For racing Vittoria Evo CL/CS (or their successors) are tried and true.
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great
On boards, anything rubber will do, just stay away from coloured rubber with silicon that kills the grip factor. Here in Oz, everyone trains on cheap rubber clinchers of personal choice.
For racing, the ultra smooth surface allows for super high pressures and light tyre choices. Coninental and Vittoria are very popular brands. Go with what you can find and what you like
For racing, the ultra smooth surface allows for super high pressures and light tyre choices. Coninental and Vittoria are very popular brands. Go with what you can find and what you like
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So, I'm an idot and rode a front wheel meant for indoor pre-mounted with a Vittoria Evo at the SD paved track, and got a puncture of course. My rear disc has a Conti Stayer, and I was thinking of just matching up the front to that...but any reason to pick a different tire?
I will only use this front tubular for races (SD paved, and LA wood), I'll use Ellipse wheels and outdoor tires for training in SD ongoing. So ideally, if I could pick a tire that grips well at varying speeds on the wood (slow sometimes) and carries speed well, and can also be used occasionally on the paved track for races, that would be ideal.
I'm asking too much, right? A tire that grips well going slow on the wood, is also fast, is durable...why don't I just ask for something that hovers?!
I will only use this front tubular for races (SD paved, and LA wood), I'll use Ellipse wheels and outdoor tires for training in SD ongoing. So ideally, if I could pick a tire that grips well at varying speeds on the wood (slow sometimes) and carries speed well, and can also be used occasionally on the paved track for races, that would be ideal.
I'm asking too much, right? A tire that grips well going slow on the wood, is also fast, is durable...why don't I just ask for something that hovers?!
Last edited by Super D; 08-12-19 at 09:24 PM. Reason: Clarifying that I plant to use the wheel for racing on both paved and wooden surfaces.
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Generally you can use a lighter tire on the front. I've been using a Vittoria Pista Speed on the front and a regular Pista on the back, but Japanese outdoor tracks are very clean and well maintained. I don't warm up on these wheels, and my regular training wheels have Conti Sprinters on them.
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Generally you can use a lighter tire on the front. I've been using a Vittoria Pista Speed on the front and a regular Pista on the back, but Japanese outdoor tracks are very clean and well maintained. I don't warm up on these wheels, and my regular training wheels have Conti Sprinters on them.
In light of that, I should be a little conservative and try to go for something a little more durable than a tire made for perfect conditions. I'll give up some speed when on the wood, but if I can run the same wheel/tire on both surfaces for races, it'd be more affordable, which is a plus I think.
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I've been looking at them, thanks for the reminder. Noticed the Control description makes mention of toughness for outdoor tracks. I know it's not optimal for speed, but I might go that direction, just for the durability/versatility. If they're slightly slower than the lighter version, I'll just have to pedal harder.
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I use Vittoria Pista Speed on Carson. It is very fast, and you can also go very slow as well. I have a friend that uses Sonderklass and likes them. I stopped using them because they were inconsistent in quality. I stopped using Steher's on Carson because they are way heavy, and not needed on the wood.
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